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ISO Lease bull

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:35 am

I am located in winnsboro Tx searching for a lease bull for two months will pay trich test on way back need one for couple cows. Angus Brangus hereford Brahman breeding age any of these are fine. If anyone knows anyone or interested in leasing could you let me know???
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby 5S Cattle » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:58 pm

How many cows?
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bullitt » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:17 pm

Bfields30 wrote:I am located in winnsboro Tx searching for a lease bull for two months will pay trich test on way back need one for couple cows. Angus Brangus hereford Brahman breeding age any of these are fine. If anyone knows anyone or interested in leasing could you let me know???



Here is a 14-month-old Beefmaster bull for $750 in Cushing, Texas. I know that is a little bit of a drive. https://easttexas.craigslist.org/grd/d/ ... 36873.html

Here is a 7-month-old Brangus bull for $750 in Jacksonville, Texas. https://easttexas.craigslist.org/grd/d/ ... 16789.html

You could keep the bull for a while and then sell it if you did not want to keep a bull, and you would make a profit on the bull.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bfields30 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:42 pm

Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bullitt » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:09 pm

Bfields30 wrote:Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private


After you used the bull to breed your cows, you could sell the bull as a proven bull. You could try to sell it on your own and see if you get the price you want. If that did not work, you could take the bull to the sale barn.

That beefmaster bull seems like a very good deal.
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Postby Son of Butch » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:21 am

Bfields30 wrote:Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private

94% of private sales bring higher price than sale barns (especially after commissions and yardage.)
The problem is the time and effort to generate a private sale.
Sale barn advantage is your cattle are 100% liquid within 24 hours and the check will be good.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bfields30 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:45 am

5S Cattle wrote:How many cows?

Just 3 at the moment I’ll be getting 3-4 more in the next month or so
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Postby TCRanch » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:22 am

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Bfields30 wrote:Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private


After you used the bull to breed your cows, you could sell the bull as a proven bull. You could try to sell it on your own and see if you get the price you want. If that did not work, you could take the bull to the sale barn.

That beefmaster bull seems like a very good deal.

Check your local regs about selling a non-virgin bull. In KS, bulls that change possession or ownership within Kansas must meet one of the following criteria:
Non-virgin bulls or bulls greater than 18 months of age:
****Must be tested for trichomoniasis and certified negative within 60 days prior to change of possession or ownership, OR
****Be sold for slaughter only or for feeding for slaughter purposes.
**Virgin bulls 18 months of age or younger may change possession or ownership without a negative trichomoniases test if the owner signs a statement verifying the bulls have not been sexually exposed to breeding aged females.
**Virgin bulls 24 months of age or younger that are part of a herd management plan approved by the animal health commissioner shall not be required to be tested for trichomoniases and certified negative prior to changing possession or ownership.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bfields30 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:19 pm

Bullitt wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private


After you used the bull to breed your cows, you could sell the bull as a proven bull. You could try to sell it on your own and see if you get the price you want. If that did not work, you could take the bull to the sale barn.

That beefmaster bull seems like a very good deal.

The beefmaster sold this morning
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bullitt » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:30 pm

Bfields30 wrote:The beefmaster sold this morning


You should be able to find another bull. If you are willing to wait, you can get a young bull cheaply.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bullitt » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:35 pm

TCRanch wrote:
Bullitt wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:Yeah I contacted the people about the beefmaster in looking into that one this past week ... I just didn’t know how selling a bull worked and if I would get more money if I sold it sale barn or private


After you used the bull to breed your cows, you could sell the bull as a proven bull. You could try to sell it on your own and see if you get the price you want. If that did not work, you could take the bull to the sale barn.

That beefmaster bull seems like a very good deal.

Check your local regs about selling a non-virgin bull. In KS, bulls that change possession or ownership within Kansas must meet one of the following criteria:
Non-virgin bulls or bulls greater than 18 months of age:
****Must be tested for trichomoniasis and certified negative within 60 days prior to change of possession or ownership, OR
****Be sold for slaughter only or for feeding for slaughter purposes.
**Virgin bulls 18 months of age or younger may change possession or ownership without a negative trichomoniases test if the owner signs a statement verifying the bulls have not been sexually exposed to breeding aged females.
**Virgin bulls 24 months of age or younger that are part of a herd management plan approved by the animal health commissioner shall not be required to be tested for trichomoniases and certified negative prior to changing possession or ownership.



I have not heard of those requirements in Texas. I am sure each state is different.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby TCRanch » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:10 am

Bullitt wrote:
TCRanch wrote:
Bullitt wrote:
After you used the bull to breed your cows, you could sell the bull as a proven bull. You could try to sell it on your own and see if you get the price you want. If that did not work, you could take the bull to the sale barn.

That beefmaster bull seems like a very good deal.

Check your local regs about selling a non-virgin bull. In KS, bulls that change possession or ownership within Kansas must meet one of the following criteria:
Non-virgin bulls or bulls greater than 18 months of age:
****Must be tested for trichomoniasis and certified negative within 60 days prior to change of possession or ownership, OR
****Be sold for slaughter only or for feeding for slaughter purposes.
**Virgin bulls 18 months of age or younger may change possession or ownership without a negative trichomoniases test if the owner signs a statement verifying the bulls have not been sexually exposed to breeding aged females.
**Virgin bulls 24 months of age or younger that are part of a herd management plan approved by the animal health commissioner shall not be required to be tested for trichomoniases and certified negative prior to changing possession or ownership.



I have not heard of those requirements in Texas. I am sure each state is different.

TX has the same requirements.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/news/brochu ... niasis.pdf
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:34 am

Bullitt wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:The beefmaster sold this morning


You should be able to find another bull. If you are willing to wait, you can get a young bull cheaply.

Yeah I’m just continue looking no rush
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby Bullitt » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:45 pm

TCRanch wrote:
Bullitt wrote:
TCRanch wrote:Check your local regs about selling a non-virgin bull. In KS, bulls that change possession or ownership within Kansas must meet one of the following criteria:
Non-virgin bulls or bulls greater than 18 months of age:
****Must be tested for trichomoniasis and certified negative within 60 days prior to change of possession or ownership, OR
****Be sold for slaughter only or for feeding for slaughter purposes.
**Virgin bulls 18 months of age or younger may change possession or ownership without a negative trichomoniases test if the owner signs a statement verifying the bulls have not been sexually exposed to breeding aged females.
**Virgin bulls 24 months of age or younger that are part of a herd management plan approved by the animal health commissioner shall not be required to be tested for trichomoniases and certified negative prior to changing possession or ownership.



I have not heard of those requirements in Texas. I am sure each state is different.

TX has the same requirements.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/news/brochu ... niasis.pdf



Thank you. Now I know.

That explains why many advertisements state it is a virgin bull for sale.
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Re: ISO Lease bull

Postby TCRanch » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:57 pm

Bullitt wrote:
TCRanch wrote:
Bullitt wrote:

I have not heard of those requirements in Texas. I am sure each state is different.

TX has the same requirements.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/news/brochu ... niasis.pdf



Thank you. Now I know.

That explains why many advertisements state it is a virgin bull for sale.

That's also one reason why a lot of perfectly good bulls end up at the sale barn for slaughter. Most people don't want to go to the expense & hassle of trich testing. I've sold some bulls that were awesome & still had a lot of years before they passed their prime but I either didn't want to breed them to their daughters (just my personal preference) or they got so big I was afraid they would literally hurt the heifers/cows (not all bulls are gentlemen).
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