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Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:17 am

Buying light weight heifers 300-500 lb and growing them on grass and reselling them in couple months ?? Any chance of profit ?
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby texan@heart » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:51 am

Depends on quality and price. Quality or value is determined by genetics, vaccination history, and body condition. Good deals can be priced above or below market averages. Train wrecks can be priced above or below market averages. All producers don’t make the same profit because they don’t all have the same knowledge.
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Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm

texan@heart wrote:Depends on quality and price. Quality or value is determined by genetics, vaccination history, and body condition. Good deals can be priced above or below market averages. Train wrecks can be priced above or below market averages. All producers don’t make the same profit because they don’t all have the same knowledge.
the ones I’ve seen are around 450-550 cost wise. I was thinking have them on grass all summer there already fully vaccinated.
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Postby wbvs58 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
texan@heart wrote:Depends on quality and price. Quality or value is determined by genetics, vaccination history, and body condition. Good deals can be priced above or below market averages. Train wrecks can be priced above or below market averages. All producers don’t make the same profit because they don’t all have the same knowledge.
the ones I’ve seen are around 450-550 cost wise. I was thinking have them on grass all summer there already fully vaccinated.


Big words, "fully vaccinated" in my experience that means very minimal maybe closridial diseases 1st shot but I may just be a pessimist.

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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby RanchMan90 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:56 pm

I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:21 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion

Would you feed them or just have them on grass?
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Postby snoopdog » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:03 pm

Sometimes you win , and sometimes you lose . Implanting and vaccination are necessary for grass calves , no matter what . It's a tough row to hoe and the learning curve can hurt . Buy quality and you stand a better chance even if the up front cost is more .
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Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:41 pm

snoopdog wrote:Sometimes you win , and sometimes you lose . Implanting and vaccination are necessary for grass calves , no matter what . It's a tough row to hoe and the learning curve can hurt . Buy quality and you stand a better chance even if the up front cost is more .
would you recommend doing it? Or too risky
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby snoopdog » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:01 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
snoopdog wrote:Sometimes you win , and sometimes you lose . Implanting and vaccination are necessary for grass calves , no matter what . It's a tough row to hoe and the learning curve can hurt . Buy quality and you stand a better chance even if the up front cost is more .
would you recommend doing it? Or too risky
I won't make a reccomendation either way , you can make money , or you can lose money . If you make on the first 3 bunches , you can bet you'll lose on the 4th, example only. With heifers , if you have the feed , and can stand the loss of cashflow , you can always breed and calve them . And that can be a trainwreck itself , there are no guarantees , with mortality loss or market fluctuations , you can make up to 150 a head, or you can lose the same amount , if not more . I think the average margin of what you want to do , is probably going to be about 60 dollars per head , some may dispute , but that is my experience .
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby RanchMan90 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:17 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion

Would you feed them or just have them on grass?

I would feed them at least 2% of their body weight per day
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:12 pm

snoopdog wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:
snoopdog wrote:Sometimes you win , and sometimes you lose . Implanting and vaccination are necessary for grass calves , no matter what . It's a tough row to hoe and the learning curve can hurt . Buy quality and you stand a better chance even if the up front cost is more .
would you recommend doing it? Or too risky
I won't make a reccomendation either way , you can make money , or you can lose money . If you make on the first 3 bunches , you can bet you'll lose on the 4th, example only. With heifers , if you have the feed , and can stand the loss of cashflow , you can always breed and calve them . And that can be a trainwreck itself , there are no guarantees , with mortality loss or market fluctuations , you can make up to 150 a head, or you can lose the same amount , if not more . I think the average margin of what you want to do , is probably going to be about 60 dollars per head , some may dispute , but that is my experience .
im just getting into cattle so im kinda nervous about bred heifers lol so gonna stay away from them
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:14 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion

Where in northeast Tx would I find light weight steers
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:16 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion

Would you feed them or just have them on grass?

I would feed them at least 2% of their body weight per day

A certain mixture of feed ?
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Postby Bullitt » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:27 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'd buy steers to do that at today's prices. Not much total dollar spread between them at 250-300 lbs. Sell them in 90-120 days. Just my opinion

Where in northeast Tx would I find light weight steers



The Winnsboro Livestock & Dairy Auction has a stocker cattle sale at 11:30 a.m. every Friday. I am sure you can find steers for sale there.

http://www.winnsborolivestock.com/

Here are the steer prices from March 2. Prices are per pound.

UNDER 300 LBS - $1.55 - $2.60

300-400 LBS - $1.45 - $2.30

400-500 LBS - $1.30 - $2.05

OVER 500 LBS - $1.20 - $1.80
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby RanchMan90 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:49 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:Would you feed them or just have them on grass?

I would feed them at least 2% of their body weight per day

A certain mixture of feed ?

A 16% commodity ration would be perfect. Sulphur springs, Mt pleasant, Emory, and winnsboro all have decent sales. I would go sit in on one of the NetBIO sales in sulphur springs to get some price points and work backward on what you can pay for some at your local sale.
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