Buying lightweight heifers

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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:13 am

RanchMan90 wrote:
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RanchMan90 wrote:I would feed them at least 2% of their body weight per day

A certain mixture of feed ?

A 16% commodity ration would be perfect. Sulphur springs, Mt pleasant, Emory, and winnsboro all have decent sales. I would go sit in on one of the NetBIO sales in sulphur springs to get some price points and work backward on what you can pay for some at your local sale.
will do.
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby 1wlimo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:47 pm

snoopdog wrote:
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snoopdog wrote:Sometimes you win , and sometimes you lose . Implanting and vaccination are necessary for grass calves , no matter what . It's a tough row to hoe and the learning curve can hurt . Buy quality and you stand a better chance even if the up front cost is more .
would you recommend doing it? Or too risky
I won't make a reccomendation either way , you can make money , or you can lose money . If you make on the first 3 bunches , you can bet you'll lose on the 4th, example only. With heifers , if you have the feed , and can stand the loss of cashflow , you can always breed and calve them . And that can be a trainwreck itself , there are no guarantees , with mortality loss or market fluctuations , you can make up to 150 a head, or you can lose the same amount , if not more . I think the average margin of what you want to do , is probably going to be about 60 dollars per head , some may dispute , but that is my experience .


If you have good easy calving bulls breeding them is possiable without a wreck, but we lost a heifer just this week as she got stuck head down on her back on a hill. `

Need a good yard, and need to pay attention with heifers, I only have 60 this year :)
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby callmefence » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:18 am

Bfields30 wrote:Buying light weight heifers 300-500 lb and growing them on grass and reselling them in couple months ?? Any chance of profit ?


I don't think you'll do much good. You'll be getting most likely trailer weaned calf's. They will lose weight the first week. And not going to gain enough weight on grass in two months.

I agree with ranchman. Buy bull calf's make them steers and feed them.
Or do the heifers but get quality matched set and run on your grass and feed until yearlings.
Sell them as open replacements.

Or if you wanna make a dollar. Buy some skinny old cows and put em on the tall grass.
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Dave » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:11 pm

callmefence wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:Buying light weight heifers 300-500 lb and growing them on grass and reselling them in couple months ?? Any chance of profit ?


I don't think you'll do much good. You'll be getting most likely trailer weaned calf's. They will lose weight the first week. And not going to gain enough weight on grass in two months.

I agree with ranchman. Buy bull calf's make them steers and feed them.
Or do the heifers but get quality matched set and run on your grass and feed until yearlings.
Sell them as open replacements.

Or if you wanna make a dollar. Buy some skinny old cows and put em on the tall grass.


Buying older (maybe not too old) cows will work. The bull calves can work. But just like the heifers you have to watch out buying too small as those are almost guaranteed to be weaned on the trailer. It is one of those regional things also. here you would go to every sale for two months to put together 50 calves under 300 pounds. Look at sale reports from local sales. Figure the highest price in the size you plan to buy and the lowest price in your projected sale weight. Calculate the total dollars at each size and see what the difference is. Last week here 415 pound heifers cost a little over $600. Heifers just short of 700 pounds brought a little over $900. So there is $300 to add almost 300 pounds. What are your costs to put on that 300 pounds?
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:36 pm

Dave wrote:
callmefence wrote:
Bfields30 wrote:Buying light weight heifers 300-500 lb and growing them on grass and reselling them in couple months ?? Any chance of profit ?


I don't think you'll do much good. You'll be getting most likely trailer weaned calf's. They will lose weight the first week. And not going to gain enough weight on grass in two months.

I agree with ranchman. Buy bull calf's make them steers and feed them.
Or do the heifers but get quality matched set and run on your grass and feed until yearlings.
Sell them as open replacements.

Or if you wanna make a dollar. Buy some skinny old cows and put em on the tall grass.


Buying older (maybe not too old) cows will work. The bull calves can work. But just like the heifers you have to watch out buying too small as those are almost guaranteed to be weaned on the trailer. It is one of those regional things also. here you would go to every sale for two months to put together 50 calves under 300 pounds. Look at sale reports from local sales. Figure the highest price in the size you plan to buy and the lowest price in your projected sale weight. Calculate the total dollars at each size and see what the difference is. Last week here 415 pound heifers cost a little over $600. Heifers just short of 700 pounds brought a little over $900. So there is $300 to add almost 300 pounds. What are your costs to put on that 300 pounds?


The ones I am looking at now are 250 to 400 cost range from 475 to 550 on price per heifer but i was thinking about just testing it seeing buying 2-4 and seeing how it went before i bought a good amount so i wont lose money on the whole deal how much would you say i should feed each heifer and how many times a week should i feed them.
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Bfields30 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:39 pm

As of now i have 3 cows one has a calf at her side thats 4 months the other two one is 7 months preg and the other is open. they were skinny when i got them and they gained a lot of weight since march of spring break when i got them a lot of people have been telling me how good they look and how much i turned them around. when is the best time to sell older cattle the pregnant one is 6 yr old and 7 mo the cow with the calf on her side is 8 yr old with a 4 mo old calve and another cow that 8 yrs old.
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Re: Buying lightweight heifers

Postby Son of Butch » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:34 pm

All 3 currently in good flesh.... assuming no bull, I'd sell all asap... but
6 yr old cow 7 months pg.... sell now as bred cow or if you want calve her and sell with 2-3 week old calf at her side
(she'll bring more in 2.5 - 3 months with the calf at her side)

8 yr old cow long time open and now has good flesh.... sell her for slaughter asap

8 yr old open 120 days (4 months) if you put cow/calf in the ring, cow will bring slaughter price with or without
the calf.
IF you choose to calve the 6 yr old, then I'd wean the calf from the 8 yr old in 8 weeks and sell all 4 on 1 trip.
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