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Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:56 pm
by NonTypicalCPA
I'm buying a bull with a friend of mine to cover both our herds. The bull will be will me from December to July. My friend is 100% grass fed (grain is evil!), while I give my small herd a little sweet feed daily so that I can keep an eye on them and give them a little boost/treat. Our agreement is that I won't give any to the bull when he's at my place, which I'm fine with. But is there another option that would give my girls a boost during the winter months that would be ok with a grass-fed operation?

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:07 pm
by M-5
find a new friend or buy your own bull . It sounds like he is making all the rules and using your money to do it .

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:15 pm
by True Grit Farms
Is the bull for breeding or eating?

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:33 pm
by ALACOWMAN
Wagyu bull? Wonder was he raised grass fed??or will he come apart like a Chinese watch..something like range cubes that's grass based..alfalfa for instance ...

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:24 am
by NonTypicalCPA
M-5, he's a good friend, not trying to use me. He just is set up 100% grass, and that's ok with me. I've had my own bull that I just sold this spring, and I don't need a bull on the farm for 12 months so this joint ownership will be a great benefit to me. I'm just trying to find something that I can give my girls that will be pastured with him that would work with my friend.

I've bought alfalfa cubes in the past from TSC for our horses when we had them. Are these the same things as "range cubes"?

This bull will be a breeder. I'm not sure why giving him grain concerns my friend, but whatever.

Life's an adventure, if everyone falls apart we'll start over.

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:27 am
by Black and Good
Alfalfa pellets. But they are$$ B&G

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:12 am
by True Grit Farms
You can't feed alfalfa or clover to beef that's supposedly 100% grass fed. Seems to me if the partner is worried about a little feed for a bull, he should be really worried about his 100% grass fed cattle eating legumes.

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:35 am
by M-5
NonTypicalCPA wrote:M-5, he's a good friend, not trying to use me. He just is set up 100% grass, and that's ok with me. I've had my own bull that I just sold this spring, and I don't need a bull on the farm for 12 months so this joint ownership will be a great benefit to me. I'm just trying to find something that I can give my girls that will be pastured with him that would work with my friend.

I've bought alfalfa cubes in the past from TSC for our horses when we had them. Are these the same things as "range cubes"?

This bull will be a breeder. I'm not sure why giving him grain concerns my friend, but whatever.

Life's an adventure, if everyone falls apart we'll start over.


I understand being a good friend but If I Own 1/2, my half will eat what ever I decide . I can almost guarantee this will dissolve your friendship. either you will be disappointed with how he is returned to you or he will be disappointed on how you return him.

My 2 cents

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:02 am
by ALACOWMAN
I doubt you feeding him would make a big difference..worrying about the grass fed in this situation,seems like bs to me.. It won't effect his cows,how the bull does when he ain't at his place.. He's used for breeding and I wouldn't change my way of doing things to suit it..those treats will cost you more in the long run...

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:01 pm
by wbvs58
Wagyu does not become Wagyu beef until the cattle are fed appropriately on special grain diets for extended periods of time. If you are doing 100% grass fed you would be better off with something that will give you more growth and finishing on grass like Angus or Simmental than something lean and rangy looking like a Wagyu.

Ken

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:16 pm
by Nesikep
Feed them whatever, and just don't say nothing. :hide:

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 am
by NonTypicalCPA
There are several farms doing 100% grass fed Wagyu - we've sample some, good stuff. With my Belties, they naturally marble well on grass, so I'm hoping adding the Wagyu genetics will improve that some including adding some additional flavor and tenderness. The little grain I give them will just be a bonus, not sure it will help with the above or not, but I'm not planning on the traditional grain finishing process that most Wagyu breeders do.

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:32 am
by ALACOWMAN
Your just using the bull for breeding... If you fed him tootsie rolls, it won't matter...

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:09 am
by Ebenezer
Soyhull pellets were labels as non-grain by some grassfed groups in the past.

Re: Any supplements/treats out there that is ok for grassfed folks?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:18 pm
by fasttommy
True Grit Farms wrote:You can't feed alfalfa or clover to beef that's supposedly 100% grass fed.


Pretty sure this is off the mark.