my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

The place to start if you are new!
pdubdo
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 122
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:53 pm
Location: southern Oklahoma
Has thanked: 3 times

my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by pdubdo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Seems like forever but I finally got my first 4 commercial RA heifers! Had em since May on native grasses only. They aren't dead yet so I think that's a win! Gonna start supplementing so can y'all with more experienced eyes help me w/ BCS? I'd like to track it through the winter (or until I get a set of scales). Also, feel free to critique them. You won't hurt my feelings and it'll help me with future purchases. Appreciate all the help this forum has given me!

Image

Image

Image

Image



Coosh71
Trail Boss
Trail Boss
Posts: 408
Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 8:32 am
Location: Texas Panhandle
Has thanked: 206 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Coosh71 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:38 pm

Are the heifers bred?

NonTypicalCPA
Trail Boss
Trail Boss
Posts: 452
Joined: Tue May 24, 2016 12:33 pm
Location: SW Michigan
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by NonTypicalCPA » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:40 pm

Not sure what their bcs is but they look good and healthy to me!

User avatar
ALACOWMAN
Mentor
Mentor
Posts: 15977
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:16 pm
Location: Alabama the Beautiful
Has thanked: 152 times
Been thanked: 122 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by ALACOWMAN » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:02 pm

As my aunt would say, they don't look emancipated :cowboy:
someone said I should follow my dreams,,so I went back to bed...

pdubdo
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 122
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:53 pm
Location: southern Oklahoma
Has thanked: 3 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by pdubdo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:08 pm

Coosh71 wrote:Are the heifers bred?


Not bred-they were born in Oct/November. Haven't decided on fall-calving or wait for spring calves (whole different topic!)

Coosh71
Trail Boss
Trail Boss
Posts: 408
Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 8:32 am
Location: Texas Panhandle
Has thanked: 206 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Coosh71 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:21 pm

What's your plan for breeding? AI? Rent a bull? And yes they do look good. Hard to score from pics, but they look good.

User avatar
Gators Rule
Rancher
Rancher
Posts: 823
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:16 pm
Location: Florida ( North South Central)
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Gators Rule » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Nice heifers for you to start!!!
I stand for the flag, and kneel for the cross...

User avatar
Nesikep
Mentor
Mentor
Posts: 14170
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:37 pm
Location: Lillooet, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 190 times
Been thanked: 185 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Nesikep » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:27 am

ALACOWMAN wrote:As my aunt would say, they don't look emancipated :cowboy:

Image
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
-Christopher Hitchens

User avatar
snoopdog
GURU
GURU
Posts: 1047
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:16 am
Location: ne oklahoma
Has thanked: 121 times
Been thanked: 48 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by snoopdog » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:16 am

Nice looking girls !
Being poor is the most expensive thing there is

User avatar
Son of Butch
GURU
GURU
Posts: 5762
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:44 pm
Location: Frost Bite Falls, Minnesota
Has thanked: 54 times
Been thanked: 130 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Son of Butch » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:26 am

I'd score your heifers BCS 6 - Good

Body Condition Score measures the energy reserves of the animal
1 Emaciated
2 Very Thin (rail thin)
3 Thin (can see the ribs individually)
4 Borderline (can't see ribs, but hard, sharp top line with no fat deposits)
5 Moderate (overall appearance good)
6 Good (slightly fat on tailhead and pins)
7 Very Good (spongy fat around the tailhead)
8 Fat (fat pones obvious around the tailhead)
9 Very Fat

Breeding Animals should be 5, 6 or 7

cjmc
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 81
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:52 am
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by cjmc » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:27 pm

Son of Butch wrote:I'd score your heifers BCS 6 - Good

Body Condition Score measures the energy reserves of the animal
1 Emaciated
2 Very Thin (rail thin)
3 Thin (can see the ribs individually)
4 Borderline (can't see ribs, but hard, sharp top line with no fat deposits)
5 Moderate (overall appearance good)
6 Good (slightly fat on tailhead and pins)
7 Very Good (spongy fat around the tailhead)
8 Fat (fat pones obvious around the tailhead)
9 Very Fat

Breeding Animals should be 5, 6 or 7


I agree with your eye that they are a 6. Ideal BCS would be a 6. I would say a range of 5-7 is acceptable condition. I disagree with the description though, you will definitely see some ribs with cows in a BCS of 4.

User avatar
Son of Butch
GURU
GURU
Posts: 5762
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:44 pm
Location: Frost Bite Falls, Minnesota
Has thanked: 54 times
Been thanked: 130 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by Son of Butch » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:29 am

I can live with that, perhaps better description of 4 is can't see fore ribs, but rear rib or 2 might be visible.
But there are some animals with rib covering that still fall a bit short of 5 if you feel for fat across their top line.
It's helpful to be able to touch the animal to verify a score of 4 or 7
Breeding bulls should be bcs 6 at the start of breeding season.

pdubdo
Cowhand
Cowhand
Posts: 122
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:53 pm
Location: southern Oklahoma
Has thanked: 3 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by pdubdo » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:41 am

Coosh71 wrote:What's your plan for breeding? AI? Rent a bull? And yes they do look good. Hard to score from pics, but they look good.

Still working on that. prob rent-a-bull. I'm tempted to put them with a longhorn for first calf. I don't live on-site and it'll be hard to check them constantly when they calve. Want to maximize my chances of getting a live calf. Thanks to everyone for the info.

User avatar
holm25
Rancher
Rancher
Posts: 558
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:46 am
Has thanked: 88 times
Been thanked: 23 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by holm25 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:29 am

pdubdo wrote:
Coosh71 wrote:What's your plan for breeding? AI? Rent a bull? And yes they do look good. Hard to score from pics, but they look good.

Still working on that. prob rent-a-bull. I'm tempted to put them with a longhorn for first calf. I don't live on-site and it'll be hard to check them constantly when they calve. Want to maximize my chances of getting a live calf. Thanks to everyone for the info.


Angus throw pretty small calves too. Get a live calf first and then rebreed to a Simmental bull for second calves. You won’t be disappointed.

User avatar
holm25
Rancher
Rancher
Posts: 558
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:46 am
Has thanked: 88 times
Been thanked: 23 times

Re: my first heifers! and help w/ BCS

Post by holm25 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:34 am

The heifers look like they’re in pretty darn good shape. Our cows range from 5-7 BCS.. I prefer heifers in the 6 range for first breeding... Don’t want overly fat heifers...

Post Reply