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Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:02 am
by Silver
Creek crossing is washed out. We build semi temporary crossings by putting logs down and covering with dirt. Generally we just put more dirt on these crossings every year, the logs stay in place. This crossing has had the same logs under it for 50+ years. We decided to add some more logs this year and cap it with some sandstone to see if it would be less likely to wash away.

Water is down.
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New logs in place:
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Throwing some dirt out for the cat:
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Dozing material over the crossing:
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Sandstone for the cap. Not sure why I didn't take a pic of the end product. When it drys up I want to haul a few more loads to beef it up, I'll maybe take a pic then.
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Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:52 am
by wbvs58
What size dozer is that Silver?

Ken

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:22 am
by uplandnut
Looks like it should last a long time. DNR would be all over someone for that where I am :(

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:38 am
by Silver
wbvs58 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:52 am
What size dozer is that Silver?

Ken
That's my old 1963 D6C.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:44 am
by Silver
uplandnut wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:22 am
Looks like it should last a long time. DNR would be all over someone for that where I am :(
I hope it lasts for awhile. These things generally need some repair of varying degrees every spring depending on the severity of the runoff. I'm hoping if I put enough sandstone on it and on the downstream face that it will stand up to high water running over the top of it.

As far as our version of DNR goes, I think this is one of those deals where it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission, and they have bigger fish to fry than little STO ranchers. If I were an oil company and got remotely close to a creek like this they'd hang me in a public square.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:56 am
by True Grit Farms
Silver wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:44 am
uplandnut wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:22 am
Looks like it should last a long time. DNR would be all over someone for that where I am :(
I hope it lasts for awhile. These things generally need some repair of varying degrees every spring depending on the severity of the runoff. I'm hoping if I put enough sandstone on it and on the downstream face that it will stand up to high water running over the top of it.

As far as our version of DNR goes, I think this is one of those deals where it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission, and they have bigger fish to fry than little STO ranchers. If I were an oil company and got remotely close to a creek like this they'd hang me in a public square.
The EPA screws with the STO here, they have no money to pay a bribe.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:35 am
by NEFarmwife
I am not sure if you can but what we do around here, is get 60lb concrete bags and stack them (with a culvert so water can flow still)... Works like a charm.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:57 am
by Silver
NEFarmwife wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:35 am
I am not sure if you can but what we do around here, is get 60lb concrete bags and stack them (with a culvert so water can flow still)... Works like a charm.
Sounds like a good idea, but culverts are out of the question here as we are polluted with beavers and they are really good at damming them off. The water can flow between the logs and tend to not get dammed up. I like the concrete idea though.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:26 pm
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
I was going to ask about a culvert. I couldn't see anything that looked like one. Interesting that the water is able to keep flowing thru the trees. I would have guessed that they would just fill in with dirt/debris.
I, for one, really appreciate you sharing your projects. Very, very interesting.

Re: Creek crossing repair

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:48 pm
by wbvs58
I think that is a great and practical crossing. I am currently repairing an old tin mining dam that was built about 50 years ago just by clearing and pushing up the timber then dirt, mostly sand pushed up and over time the clay from the washing of tin sealed it. The wall washed out as the spillway was blocked leaving a big hole. All of those original trees were still intact in the hole.

Ken