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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Sat May 30, 2020 9:00 pm

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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:29 am

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So last night my 2 new girls got here. I left them locked up in the corral with my little ones last night. How long should I keep them locked up together before i turn them loose into the small pasture? I just dont want them running right through the fence :(

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Re: Any advice

Post by Hereford2 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:32 pm

I always keep any new calves or cows in the corral, for a Minimum of 2 weeks after bringing them to my place.

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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:41 pm

Thanks. I let them out for a day and they just went to the far corner and hid. I got them back in tonight and had a big thing of cake waiting for them.

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Re: Any advice

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:58 pm

Depending on what kind of fencing and what they are used to. If they stayed in all day, they should be fine to put out. Do you have a way to separate the babies from the yearlings when you feed their grain?
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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:34 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:58 pm
Depending on what kind of fencing and what they are used to. If they stayed in all day, they should be fine to put out. Do you have a way to separate the babies from the yearlings when you feed their grain?


Not really. I give the big ones some cake and the calves their feed so they stay seperate while they eat... I dont really have a good way to separate them kinda a flaw in my plan.

Any ideas how to juggle that?

But the calves are completely off the bottle and have been for a week now. The big ones almost were eating cake out of my hand tonight so maybe they are ready to go back out. I just let them in the little 2 acre ish pasture. Once they eat it down a little I will turn them out on the big pasture. (25 acres ish)

I also bought them a protien tub tonight. Do I need salt too?

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Re: Any advice

Post by jschoolcraft86 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:06 pm

Check the label on the tub and see how it is on micronutrients. Vitaferm makes some good tubs with a good bit of mineral. For what it’s worth I always leave out free choice mineral anyway. If they consume it slowly I just go by every week or two and make sure the mineral hasn’t clumped up. It’s good for peace of mind at the very least

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Re: Any advice

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm

Once they are all out on the pasture, you can call the calves into the lot, and lock out the older two, while the calves eat their feed.
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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:18 pm

Ya I have been doing supervised treat time. I think they are kinda done with it tho. They only nibble at it when I give them some and dont really seem to care.. they seem really happy on grass. They have salt blocks and a mineral tub, they kinda even tried the cake I was giving the big ones. I'm scared they will bloat so I have medicine on standby but idk they act like big cows now. Although they tried sucking on each other tonight which they havnt done in a long time. Thought that was weird. (To be fair it was right when I got out a jug to feed my bees and i think they had flashbacks) lol

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Re: Any advice

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 am

They have salt blocks and a mineral tub
Typical "hard" blocks of any kind are by composition, make it difficult for animals to ensure adequate consumption. Your tubs likely provide sufficient salt. If in doubt, provide salt in loose form.

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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:58 am

76 Bar wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:54 am
They have salt blocks and a mineral tub
Typical "hard" blocks of any kind are by composition, make it difficult for animals to ensure adequate consumption. Your tubs likely provide sufficient salt. If in doubt, provide salt in loose form.

Good to know. Thank you

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Re: Any advice

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:14 am

Good to know. Thank you
Glad you found the advice helpful

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Re: Any advice

Post by greggy » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:51 am

Montanaidiot wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:18 pm
Ya I have been doing supervised treat time. I think they are kinda done with it tho. They only nibble at it when I give them some and dont really seem to care.. they seem really happy on grass. They have salt blocks and a mineral tub, they kinda even tried the cake I was giving the big ones. I'm scared they will bloat so I have medicine on standby but idk they act like big cows now. Although they tried sucking on each other tonight which they havnt done in a long time. Thought that was weird. (To be fair it was right when I got out a jug to feed my bees and i think they had flashbacks) lol

I cant thank everyone enough for all the help in this thread!!! I feel like this cow experience so far has been awesome thanks to all the great advice.
They are bubs still.

If you ask me, your falling into a common trap, where later, often a view is formed that bottle calves do not grow properly.

They need a certain type of high protein feed for quite a while, early weaning is ok when the goodness will be supplied another way, filling on grass is same as hay.

It is a matter of what they can extract of what they ingest.

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Re: Any advice

Post by Montanaidiot » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:53 pm

Its been awhile since I have been here. My the mighty heard is getting big but I need to be thinking about finishing and winter time. So I have a few more questions.

The yearlings go to the butcher in early Feb. So I'm guessing I need to start finishing in nov.?

Also what should I feed them? Corn? Grain? Also where do I get it?

Now for my little ones. What kinda hay do I need for them? I see all sorts of mixes of 50/50 grass alphalpha 25/75...some with clover.

What kind should I get and how much? I was just going to leave out big round bales for them so whatever they want + I'm sure I will feed a couple deer.

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Re: Any advice

Post by MurraysMutts » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:20 pm

The best way is to calculate what kind of nutrients they will need for age and what not. If u can, just have the hay tested so u know what to supplement.
Are them babies still taking feed/grain well?
This is directed at the small ones....


As far as feeding them bigger ones out, theres lots of threads here on the feed yard area about finishing animals. Most use corn. Lots of corn worked up slowly. Probly have to mix it with sweet feed or something to get em started good. The longer u feed em, the better the meat will be. And all the free choice hay they want.

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