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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Newrancher2020 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:20 pm
A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don’t live in Texas, so I don’t know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.
I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows



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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Brute 23 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:41 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
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Here you go! These won’t be gifted.
Checkbook required.

At Crockett
Selling, Tuesday 3/3/20, over 400 head of replacement cattle. All ranch raised and true set of young pairs and bred cows. Click on the links below to see the videos of each set of cattle.

110 Black WF Pairs, 3-5 year olds:

100 Crossbred young pairs/bred cows:

40 Young Herefords and Red Angus pairs:

50 crossbred young cows. Pairs/3rd trimester:

35 open, never been with a bull, 8-900 lbs replacement heifers:

3 young Brahman bulls, JD Hudgins bloodlines:

Also, 35 hd of 3-6 year old ranch raised Brangus pairs/heavy bred and several other small sets of cattle.

Call (936) 545-5251 or (936) 545-5045 for more info.

Thanks,

Paul Craycraft
I wonder what the scoop is on the Herefords? I could use 10-15 if the were priced right and bred.
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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:04 pm

Call Craycraft he will give it to you.
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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:42 pm

Newrancher2020 wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
A.J. wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:20 pm
A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don’t live in Texas, so I don’t know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.
I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows

So you have a terminal operation.
Why buy the highest priced cow that will suffer the most in SE Texas heat and humidity making her a hard keeper.
Red cow is cheaper and you can dictate the calf crop color with your choice of bull. Char you get yellow calves they sell well Angus or Brangus bull black calves with reduced B.W. high WW that sell at the top as well.
Hereford bull over some commercial Brimmer girls make for some premium dollar replacement heifers again reduced B.W. and high WW that will mash the scales.
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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Newrancher2020 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:14 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:42 pm
Newrancher2020 wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
A.J. wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:20 pm
A terminal bull is typically one that you would not plan on keeping calves out of for replacements, so the planned end result for the calves would be to go to the feeder market. With a terminal bull, your priority would be adding the most growth/pounds in the shortest amount of time (usually by weaning), and not focused on traits you would look at for calves you might want to keep for replacements or breeding stock. There are terminal type bulls in all breeds. Caustic and others have had some bad experiences with the bulls in the past, but Charolais is one example of a breed sometimes used in terminal crossbred operations because they are noted for fast growth and adding framesize. Eared cattle is another term used for Brahman influenced cattle. Do you have experience with cattle in the past? The reason I ask is eared cattle typically are handled differently than most other breeds like Herefords or Angus. They are very smart and respond to how they are treated. They can be dog gentle if handled properly, but if you try to cowboy them, you will receive like treatment. They are easier to lead than drive. I don’t live in Texas, so I don’t know the markets there, but I would think a Hereford bull over Brangus cows or an Angus bull over Braford cows would give you some nice black calves that you would have several options with.
I am very use to dealing with cattle and Brahman. So I was thinking Charolais bull over Angus cows or Brahman bull over Angus cows

So you have a terminal operation.
Why buy the highest priced cow that will suffer the most in SE Texas heat and humidity making her a hard keeper.
Red cow is cheaper and you can dictate the calf crop color with your choice of bull. Char you get yellow calves they sell well Angus or Brangus bull black calves with reduced B.W. high WW that sell at the top as well.
Hereford bull over some commercial Brimmer girls make for some premium dollar replacement heifers again reduced B.W. and high WW that will mash the scales.
So you suggest not using Angus cows and instead use Brahman cows

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Re: Deciding on what cattle to raise

Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:42 pm

Crossbred Brahman cows, that cow will work till 20 or better.
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