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Re: butcher calf question

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:24 am
by BigBear56
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:04 am
40% protein - I don't think so! You might be using a product that is 40% protein added to a pizz poor ration to get it up to a decent protein %.
A young calf (like under 500#) might need about 17-18% protein RATION, but when they get up around 800#, they only need around a 12-14% protein RATION.
If he is a March calf and you wean this fall, my calves would be ready to butcher in April/May next year - but I push them and don't wait til they are 18 months old. Mine are 12-13 months of age with 750# carcass. I start them off with 1% of their body weight and slowly build to 3% of their body weight (if I can get them to eat that much). I never feed over a 15% ration, quickly dropping to around a 12%. Every body has their own way to feed. Mine works for me. And I feed whole shell corn with a protein supplement and full feed good grass hay. Cheapest, healthiest way to finish one out.
Thanks for the info Jeanne! I’ve contemplated switching over to whole shelled corn and adding the protein pellets myself. What brand protein supplement are you using if I might ask? My mill carries Purina. Steak Maker I believe

Re: butcher calf question

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:38 pm
by JMJ Farms
SBMF 2015 wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:21 am
JMJ Farms wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:25 am
SBMF 2015 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:11 pm


We feed a 34% all natural w/ bovitec until we start finishing then switch to a feedlot 40% w/ Rumensin.
40% supplement? Or 40% actual protein?
40% supplement. Pound per Hd per day + alfalfa haylage + corn silage + cracked corn.
That’s what I figured. Wasn’t sure. Been fooling with cows all my life but never fed any to finish. Pa in law always did that but now he’s gone so I’m fixing to learn how to do it myself. He always mixed a 40% or so supplement with whole corn, which is close to the same as your ration. Worked well for him so I think I’ll do the same. We don’t have access to any alfalfa but we have some good peanut hay. Thanks for the reply

Re: butcher calf question

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:10 pm
by SBMF 2015
JMJ Farms wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:38 pm
SBMF 2015 wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:21 am
JMJ Farms wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:25 am


40% supplement? Or 40% actual protein?
40% supplement. Pound per Hd per day + alfalfa haylage + corn silage + cracked corn.
That’s what I figured. Wasn’t sure. Been fooling with cows all my life but never fed any to finish. Pa in law always did that but now he’s gone so I’m fixing to learn how to do it myself. He always mixed a 40% or so supplement with whole corn, which is close to the same as your ration. Worked well for him so I think I’ll do the same. We don’t have access to any alfalfa but we have some good peanut hay. Thanks for the reply
I used to manage a elderly neighbors feedlot. We grew them on silage and shell corn then once I got them up to around 25lbs of shell corn a day we would turn them loose on a self feeder of straight shell corn with a little 40% supplement. They would get limited access to corn stalks just for some scratch to keep their stomach working.
It was always a little "hotter" ration than I really like, but this neighbor had fed cattle that way all his life. And you can make them FAT if you don't burn them out. If they weren't 15-1,600lbs and yield grade 3-4 he wasn't happy.