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Brahman dilemma

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:39 am

Guys I don’t know if this is a dumb question? But I bought about 8 pairs of first calf heifers with calfs on there side two months ago. Well there split off from there herd ever since i bought them it’s two in the group that will make the others wild. First got them they take off running as soon as they hear my truck coming into the pasture now there getting better with being with my other cows at times but when there all together if they see my truck they all run with them to meet it. My question is I been giving cubes every so often but I’m trying to get them to get like my other cows which it’s too gentle Brahmans which are with my gentle cows and there spoiled. Also the others one have don’t want them to be pets but able to just walk around them and not headed to another town they have came a long way in two months though. And lastly need of ideas of a catch Pen that flows into my regular working pens I will draw a picture and post it to see if I can give you guys an idea of how it is . But trying to be more efficient when i need to doctor or have to bring them
Up. There not bad cows lol just gotta have a lil patience.
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Re: Penning dilemma

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Re: Penning dilemma

Post by JW IN VA » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:47 am

Sounds like you are doing the right thing.When you put them in with the other cows,they may relapse a little until everyone gets the "pecking order" straight but keep feeding them a little.They soon equate your truck with the feed.
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Re: Penning dilemma

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:49 am

JW IN VA wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:47 am
Sounds like you are doing the right thing.When you put them in with the other cows,they may relapse a little until everyone gets the "pecking order" straight but keep feeding them a little.They soon equate your truck with the feed.
Lol forgot to mention some of them try to go into my pens to feed but the gentle Cows are bullies when it comes to feeding

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by callmefence » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:02 am

Don't hesitate to cull anything that refuses to calm down. A bad apple will spoil the barrel.
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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:06 am

callmefence wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:02 am
Don't hesitate to cull anything that refuses to calm down. A bad apple will spoil the barrel.
Yeah I’m definitely giving them time to about once they wean there first calfs around dec January not by than they will be gone.

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:24 am

Bfields30 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:39 am
Guys I don’t know if this is a dumb question? But I bought about 8 pairs of first calf heifers with calfs on there side two months ago. Well there split off from there herd ever since i bought them it’s two in the group that will make the others wild. First got them they take off running as soon as they hear my truck coming into the pasture now there getting better with being with my other cows at times but when there all together if they see my truck they all run with them to meet it. My question is I been giving cubes every so often but I’m trying to get them to get like my other cows which it’s too gentle Brahmans which are with my gentle cows and there spoiled. Also the others one have don’t want them to be pets but able to just walk around them and not headed to another town they have came a long way in two months though. And lastly need of ideas of a catch Pen that flows into my regular working pens I will draw a picture and post it to see if I can give you guys an idea of how it is . But trying to be more efficient when i need to doctor or have to bring them
Up. There not bad cows lol just gotta have a lil patience.
You have two herds of cattle that don’t want to assimilate. I did the exact same thing.
Finally fixed it last week.
Kept feeding cubes in my trap when they were not looking they got shut up in that lot for a week together.
By about the third day they were all buddies to get that round bale I hauled in.

I have a rat trap and it’s the only place they get cubes. The rat trap can be exited to the lot, pasture or pens.
Mule is in the trap gate goes to pasture on the other side is a fenced lane that goes to the lot or pen.

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I keep the lot planted in stuff they would really like to get too as well.

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Brute 23 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:32 am

Did you turn the wild ones straight out or pen them and feed them for a couple week?

Brahamns are notorious for not assimilating with other cattle.

Pen them and feed them. If they dont settle down in a couple weeks haul them to the barn and cut your losses. Dont let two ruin the whole herd.

If your going to play with Brahman cattle you have to cull hard. Over time you learn to not even bring the questionable ones home.

Retaining heifers will save you a lot of heartache long term.
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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Brute 23 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:44 am

... and you cant push Brahmans that dont want to go. You have to out smart them.

Good facilities are always nice but it's not going to help you keep cattle like that.
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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by 76 Bar » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:23 am

and you cant push Brahmans that dont want to go.
Same concept applies to all cattle...Brahman are just quicker to sort out the wanna be from the savvy. 8)

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:17 pm

Brute 23 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:44 am
... and you cant push Brahmans that dont want to go. You have to out smart them.

Good facilities are always nice but it's not going to help you keep cattle like that.
That can be a problem for a lot of belt buckles.
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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 pm

Brute 23 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:32 am
Did you turn the wild ones straight out or pen them and feed them for a couple week?

Brahamns are notorious for not assimilating with other cattle.

Pen them and feed them. If they dont settle down in a couple weeks haul them to the barn and cut your losses. Dont let two ruin the whole herd.

If your going to play with Brahman cattle you have to cull hard. Over time you learn to not even bring the questionable ones home.

Retaining heifers will save you a lot of heartache long term.
Penned them two weeks and let them out it just has me worried cause bull is with some one day next day with other herd I know I’m not home 24-7 but just what I see when I home

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Bfields30 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:12 pm

Brute 23 wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:44 am
... and you cant push Brahmans that dont want to go. You have to out smart them.

Good facilities are always nice but it's not going to help you keep cattle like that.
The guy I brought them from sent me pics in pasture and video they were fine. The day I got there they were riled up and he told me they only work them On horses and rarely seen humans every few months. Which I’m not a bad business man wasn’t going to say I didn’t want them after they penned them for me.

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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 pm

Last thing you will ever see here is a horse. Horse playing cowboy and brimmers don’t mix.
If I can’t pen them with a bucket of cubes I need a better cow. It will take a while for them to trust and they might not ever get there.
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Re: Brahman dilemma

Post by Brute 23 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:28 pm

So of the 8 pairs 2 are not settling down?

I would just give them time to settle in until you can do some thing with them.

Eventually you are going to have to make the hard decision. Personally, I doubt they will turn for you if the others have ad they have not. Especially if they are leading the trouble.

On the pens I would tie the pens in to the barn and other cross fence to make a trap that kind of wraps around 3 side of it. That would make a good area to funnel them or hold new cattle coming in.
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