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Re: bait casting reels

Postby houstoncutter » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:54 am

Shimano Calcutta"s for me, but I have used about all of em. When it comes to baitcasters you have to get an educated thumb....Its a lot easier these days with all the braking systems in the reels. The original Garcia reels were not forgiving at all....I got very good at picking "professional overruns" out.
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby skyhightree1 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:13 pm

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skyhightree1 wrote:is there anyone else in here that cant use them? i opt for spinning reels as my preference. if i had to fish to keep my family alive with one we would starve everytime I flip it out i get a huge birdnest. :lol:


Turn it sideways as you make your cast (the road and reel). Use to bass fish a lot and never used anything but the Shimano rods and reels. Loved them....still have them but haven't fished in a long time.


What does turning it sideways do?
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby Alan » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:02 pm

I'm not TB, but turning it sideways just gives you more control of the line coming off the reel. I always kind of gave the cast a light "fling" with the rod and reel turn sideways or at least 80 to 90 degrees from straight up and down. Sorry, I didn't think of the sideways thing but I always did it. For me it was more with my wrist than throwing it as some do with a spinning reel. The reel setting and thumb is the key for controlling rat nest on a bait caster.
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby skyhightree1 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:23 pm

Gotcha... I will have to buy a bait caster again and try it lol
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby Caustic Burno » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:03 pm

houstoncutter wrote:Shimano Calcutta"s for me, but I have used about all of em. When it comes to baitcasters you have to get an educated thumb....Its a lot easier these days with all the braking systems in the reels. The original Garcia reels were not forgiving at all....I got very good at picking "professional overruns" out.


Back in the day I had Dick's Tackle Shop in Texas City custom make me a 9 foot popping rod. This was before Loomis Rod's had every been heard of. I was totally ate up with chasing trophy trout.
I could throw a Mirro-Lure out of sight with that rod. My fishing partner and I were being supplied by Mirro-Lure for a while we were in their news letter they put out as we had won so many tournament's with them.
HC I won one tourney off Dollar Point I had six speck's that weighed 38 pound's.
The all time best stringer for me came off the Seabrook Flat's had a 10 fish stringer that went 61 pound's.
I loved the 5000 D for fishing Seabrook in all the piling's a good one get on you could winch him out before he cut your line. I have no idea how many 7,8,and 9 pound trout I have caught. The best one to date is on the wall 31" long weighed 10 pound's caught her on Dec 31 and won the tourney for big fish. Ah the day's of my youth are gone just like my 17' Whaler.
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby ga.prime » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:53 pm

I learned to use a bait casting reel back around 1970 with a Pflueger Supreme loaded with braided line. That was a backlashing son of a gun. The bait casting reels of today are a piece of cake compared to those old reels. Nowadays I use Abu Garcia Ambassadors. I've had 5000's, 5500's, and others. They're all good. You don't need the most expensive one.
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Postby Brute 23 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:13 pm

skyhightree1 wrote:is there anyone else in here that cant use them? i opt for spinning reels as my preference. if i had to fish to keep my family alive with one we would starve everytime I flip it out i get a huge birdnest. :lol:


I catch nothing but be nice about using spinning reals... coffee grinders... from my fishing buddies. While they are doing the bait cast jerk from backlashing Im catching fish. Get out there on a windy day where they can't cast with the wind and it will eat there lunch.

Caustic Burno wrote:You get a bull red on that spinning reel they will burn it up.


Really... :D How big you consider big? I've caught every thing from perch, bass, catfish, trout, reds, dolphin, wahoo, tarpon, tuna and shark off a spinning reels. Its all about having the right reel for the job.

I hate to admit how much I fish... people might accuse me of neglecting the cattle. :D I have Fluger fresh water reals that you buy for $30 at Wal-Mart that have put pleanty of fish in the boat for 3 or 4 years now. We wade the POC-Seadrift area. I keep them on some $30 wal-mart rods for buddies or who ever doesn't have their own gear.

Get the right reel for the job. Clean it, take care of it, and it will do any thing a bait cast will do... many times at a fraction of the cost. I've smoked a bait cast just as fast as a spinning real.

No matter if its golf, hunting, fishing, or what ever... people spend too much time trying to look good rather than be good. ;-) I run a 10+yr Dargel Scout that I paid cash for and rod a real set ups that probably run $150. It hasn't slowed me down yet.

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Notice the reel in the pic ;-)
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby skyhightree1 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:35 pm

nice pics brute I will gladly take those flounder off your hand
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:34 am

Brute I won't argue they make a spinning reel to catch almost anything.
I have never seen one hold up and I will stand behind that. I know of no one that has one that really fished last.
Never seen someone still using the same one 20 or 30 year's like a garcia 5000 or the Shimano's. A few trip's a year they might be ok. I fished 200 day's a year for year's commercially with a rod and reel before trout and red's were reclassified as gamefish in about 1980 or so. I have cauhgt tarpon, ling, bull red, stripper, trout, and snook all on the same Garcia 5000, you are not going to do that on the same spinning reel .

You did have a nice black drum and tarpon.
The flat fish you can keep, never cared for them.
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby Brute 23 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:20 am

A guy who fishes 200 days a year won't be asking about about spinning reels on a Cattle Forum. ;-) Thats like me telling every person on this board they need a 18 wheeler and double decker to haul their cattle to auction. 90% of them can use a bumper pull and a 1/2 ton..... Same thing on the reels.

I am far from a pro or any thing like that.... but we are a long ways from once or twice a year. I'll average 2 days a week from May to Sept.

We don't go after flounder on a regular basis. Had a guy go with us who showed us the art of catching flounder on a reel by bouncing gulp along the bottom of creeks. Pretty neet deal. It was some thing new.
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Postby skyhightree1 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:02 am

lol i love flounder if i were closer to the atlantic id fish 300 days a year for them I love them.
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Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:08 pm

Brute 23 wrote:A guy who fishes 200 days a year won't be asking about about spinning reels on a Cattle Forum. ;-) Thats like me telling every person on this board they need a 18 wheeler and double decker to haul their cattle to auction. 90% of them can use a bumper pull and a 1/2 ton..... Same thing on the reels.

I am far from a pro or any thing like that.... but we are a long ways from once or twice a year. I'll average 2 days a week from May to Sept.

We don't go after flounder on a regular basis. Had a guy go with us who showed us the art of catching flounder on a reel by bouncing gulp along the bottom of creeks. Pretty neet deal. It was some thing new.


I fished commercial for year's and I hate to tell you that you don't have a bull red in any of those pic's. I started out in a 15' molded plywood Yellowjacket, then went to a 17 Lamar and finally a 17 foot Whaler.
When you start hanging the 30 pounders up there you have a bull red. As far as the trout go if the were not 24" or longer they were throwback's. I quit commercial fishing when trout and redfish were reclassified as game fish in 1981 and got my guide license. I only guided when my fishing partner was overbooked. Got where the bay had got so crowded with yahoo's I and sold my Whaler in 1986. Bought a Carolina skiff a few year's later and gave it to my youngest son to use so when I go back down on the coast so I can go chase trophy trout. These are the kind I was chasing.
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Postby Brute 23 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:30 pm

That is a beauty CB.

I've never really had the funds for mounts. Im suppose to fish Falcon in Oct, already started a little saving account. If I get one of those big suckers its going on the wall.

Those aren't my only pics. ;-) Im not really in to the big fish. Bull reds, Tarpon, Marlin, Shark... all that stuff is not as great as it seems. Once you have been hooked up for over 20min.... the fun has left the building and it becomes work IMO. Il take big trout, 24-34 Reds, Dolphin, ect all day over being hooked up for 30... 45... an hour. We have to follow those big tarpot around until they are done. Id much rather have a beer in my hand than the rod on that deal. Those big 5-6' can throw their whole bodies clear out of the water. Its awesome.

Tuna was one of the most unexpected catches. You would think they would run.... nope... exact opposite. The dive straight down and its like trying to drag a big ol catfish off the bottom of a muddy tank. No run, no fancy top water action. They just burry the pole until they are done then you reel them up.

My grandfather fished the KR shorline and all over Corpus for years. It was rear drives on wooden boats. Back then you could catch reds on a hook with a piece of flagging cut in a triangle. Its a little different today. :)
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Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:29 pm

That trout should have pushed 11 1/2 or better had I caught her in the spring full of row instead dead of winter she only went 10 1/2.

Dad used to bait trot line's for red's in Trinty Bay with strip's of a red rag I had forgotten about that.
I have seen dad get the shrimp net hung up on a log or something and dive in to get it untangled. Aint no way I was, I still have his net needles. I didn't even know you were supposed to eat beef until I was a teenager.
I thought everyone had 4 to 5 hundred pound's of shrimp tail's in the freezer along with trout, red's and oysters.
If you really want to catch trophy trout you need to go to Laguna Madre, Trinty or East Bay.
Seadrift is a great place to catch a lot of fish just not a lot of big fish.
Get you a 7 inch redfin chrome with a blue back the solid one not the jointed one.
You won't have anything under 24 " go after it. Find you a good flat with some deep water close and ease in and have a good time. It has to be secluded and quite can't have a bunch of yahoo's running around.
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Re: bait casting reels

Postby hooknline » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:47 pm

For flipping baits out there isn't a reel out there that can give you the accuracy to beat a bait caster. Under obstructions, in pockets, the bait caster is the best there is. But don't even think about using a stuff line. The limpet the line the better it will fall off the reel. Years ago I tried that new braid called fireline. Black line stuff as a board. Loaded up a Reel and the first cast bird nested so bad I cut it all off and never used it again. Power pro tho will fall off a reel nicely and with 0 stretch its my go to line for anything from offshore tuna Down to specs
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