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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby torogmc81 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:06 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
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FlyingLSimmentals wrote:Yeah I'll agree with Ron, Central Kentucky is some nice pretty cattle country. Sometimes I wish I was a bit farther east.


Moving east or west is more what we're thinking then north or south. Every time I drive to Atlanta I fall in love with Tenn between Nashville and Chattanooga. What parts of Kentucky would I google?


If you can afford it, the soil, climate, lay of the land, and beauty is magnificent around:

Paris
Georgetown
Stanford
Versailles ( which is the home of Shaun King, activist; leader of Black Lives Matter)
Springfield
Cynthiana
Danville


Ron,
In regards to Versailles
But not where he resides, correct? My guess is either NY or ATL?
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:10 pm

torogmc81 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
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Moving east or west is more what we're thinking then north or south. Every time I drive to Atlanta I fall in love with Tenn between Nashville and Chattanooga. What parts of Kentucky would I google?


If you can afford it, the soil, climate, lay of the land, and beauty is magnificent around:

Paris
Georgetown
Stanford
Versailles ( which is the home of Shaun King, activist; leader of Black Lives Matter)
Springfield
Cynthiana
Danville


Ron,
In regards to Versailles
But not where he resides, correct? My guess is either NY or ATL?


NY
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby LDEnterprises » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:21 pm

Bright Raven wrote:Central Kentucky is ideal.


Agreed. Still really good land throughout Kentucky that won't break the bank IMHO.
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:22 pm

cowgirl8 wrote:I'm really really nervous. The area i'm in has the cheapest land around. Heard that a big place we almost bought in the 90s for 300 an acre (AND WE KICK OURSELVES EVERY TIME WE PASS THIS PLACE), just sold for 2000. Its like 300 acres, open grazing land SW of our place. Anywho, waste management bought it..........YES!!!! WM...Now, the guy says he's just putting cows on it but i'm suspicious. Of course he's not going to tell all the people around here he's turning it into a dump until he has all the permits. I have no idea what it takes to get a dump started or if people around have any say....Husband says we'll move if they do so our ranch may be for sale soon..... His father had a place in Garland and a dump was put uphill from him. Made his well unusable..


It has to meet federal and state solid waste regulations. That does not imply that it will not be a nuisance. Odors, birds, noise, traffic, and lowering land values.

Look at it this way: it is fine with most citizens as long as it is not in their back yard.

Atlantic Richfield proposed a solid waste disposal site for Lower Area One mine waste near Anaconda, MT. I conducted the public meeting in a community center for the proposal. A rancher and his son got up to provide oral comments and included the statement that he would shoot anyone who moves equipment into the area. He owned the land next to the proposed site.

I was standing at the front of the room with a court reporter next to me who was taking down the oral comments. I looked back at the executives for Atlantic Richfield and caught the Vice Presidents eye ( Sandy was pretty and well over 6' 2", she played college basketball somewhere in New England). She and I just smiled. Now if that threat was made in eastern Kentucky, we would not have been smiling.
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Postby kenny thomas » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:02 pm

cowgirl8 wrote:I'm really really nervous. The area i'm in has the cheapest land around. Heard that a big place we almost bought in the 90s for 300 an acre (AND WE KICK OURSELVES EVERY TIME WE PASS THIS PLACE), just sold for 2000. Its like 300 acres, open grazing land SW of our place. Anywho, waste management bought it..........YES!!!! WM...Now, the guy says he's just putting cows on it but i'm suspicious. Of course he's not going to tell all the people around here he's turning it into a dump until he has all the permits. I have no idea what it takes to get a dump started or if people around have any say....Husband says we'll move if they do so our ranch may be for sale soon..... His father had a place in Garland and a dump was put uphill from him. Made his well unusable..

If Waste Management or any other company messed up his well he must be a multi millionaire. That just don't happen and be let go now days.
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby kd4au » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:41 pm

tdc_cattle wrote:
dun wrote:
tdc_cattle wrote:It has some advantages and disadvantages. We're just kind of tired of somethings and thinking about picking up and going.

Just SW MO or all of MO


If I had more acres I think I could do alright here. However there is to much competition from row crop farmers driving land prices up. It's not just that they have driven land prices up it's that if someone wants to sell something they start with one of 3 big operators and offer it to them. Usually nothing ever comes on the open market because one of the three has bought it before anyone else even knows it's for sale. They will pay $5k+ for land that still needs a thousand dollars an acre of improvements. They justify it by saying they bought $500 an acre land 30 years ago so it averages out.

Around where I live in North Alabama land is high, $5k range as you said. It is about to high to try and run cattle, but I love cattle. I think as mobile as were are these days, any where that has good land is not going to be to cheap.
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby RanchMan90 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:18 am

Go where there's no oil, gas, industry, or jobs. That's where a paid for cow can pay for land. :2cents:
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby cowgirl8 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:27 am

kenny thomas wrote:
cowgirl8 wrote:I'm really really nervous. The area i'm in has the cheapest land around. Heard that a big place we almost bought in the 90s for 300 an acre (AND WE KICK OURSELVES EVERY TIME WE PASS THIS PLACE), just sold for 2000. Its like 300 acres, open grazing land SW of our place. Anywho, waste management bought it..........YES!!!! WM...Now, the guy says he's just putting cows on it but i'm suspicious. Of course he's not going to tell all the people around here he's turning it into a dump until he has all the permits. I have no idea what it takes to get a dump started or if people around have any say....Husband says we'll move if they do so our ranch may be for sale soon..... His father had a place in Garland and a dump was put uphill from him. Made his well unusable..

If Waste Management or any other company messed up his well he must be a multi millionaire. That just don't happen and be let go now days.

You'd think...he's a lawyer too. I think it was deemed safe, but who could drink it... This happened in the late 70s...before the big boom the dallas area had. His place sat next to where the new 190 toll road is now...
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby midTN_Brangusman » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:13 am

RanchMan90 wrote:Go where there's no oil, gas, industry, or jobs. That's where a paid for cow can pay for land. :2cents:


You hit the nail on the head RM :tiphat:
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby shaz » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:41 am

Stocker Steve wrote:Was some data published a while back saying the SE part of the US was a low cost calf producer. Short winters and higher rainfall made for overall cheap forage. But, prices seem lower there also.


Yes, prices are lower.

I'd look at Arkansas because it's west of the Miss and has some good ground while still having the rainfall you're used to.
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby dave_shelby » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:56 am

I have toyed with MO, cheap land, wife's relatives live outside StL. Whats wrong?
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby tdc_cattle » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:49 am

RanchMan90 wrote:Go where there's no oil, gas, industry, or jobs. That's where a paid for cow can pay for land. :2cents:


I'm already there, just tired of here right now. Tenn, ky, and co look like places I'd like to live
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Re: Best places to run cattle?

Postby tdc_cattle » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:50 am

dave_shelby wrote:I have toyed with MO, cheap land, wife's relatives live outside StL. Whats wrong?


Don't have the right last name is about what it comes down to.
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