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Probios boluses

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:55 am

I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?
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Postby TexasBred » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:38 am

RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.
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RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?
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Re: Probios boluses

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TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

Absolutely it will and these lighweights need every advantage they can get.
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Postby Bright Raven » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:34 pm

I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.
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Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D
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Postby Bright Raven » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:42 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.
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Postby TexasBred » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:01 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Here's what I use to use. Fast Track...good product but you usually have to find a local dealer for them.

https://www.conklin.com/ProductCategory ... =02&eibo=0
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Re: Probios boluses

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Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.
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Re: Probios boluses

Postby RanchMan90 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:08 pm

TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I use the probios tubes in the caulking gun to drench with. Give them a dose when I begin grain and halter training. Also, if they look or feel out of sorts.

I like that approach of application better :D


Here's what I use to use. Fast Track...good product but you usually have to find a local dealer for them.

https://www.conklin.com/ProductCategory ... =02&eibo=0

I'll check it out. Thanks
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Re: Probios boluses

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:09 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I like that approach of application better :D


Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .
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Re: Probios boluses

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Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Why? I put the tube in the side of their mouth, give them the number of shots based on weight and no fuss. In fact, I can do it real quick while they are just standing there haltered.

Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .

For a 400 lb calf the bolus is .80 and paste is 1.30. Very negligible difference to save a few minutes. And I don't really care for boluses, for no good reason.
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Postby Bright Raven » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:42 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:Paste instead of boluses. Just seems like less to go wrong there.


I wonder which is cheaper? I use the paste in a caulking gun .

For a 400 lb calf the bolus is .80 and paste is 1.30. Very negligible difference to save a few minutes. And I don't really care for boluses, for no good reason.


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Re: Probios boluses

Postby kenny thomas » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:37 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:I'm thinking about adding probios boluses to my receiving cattle program. I always worry about administering boluses wrong. Anyone use these?

Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

I have to ask, why the mass antibiotic treatment to begin with?
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Re: Probios boluses

Postby RanchMan90 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:17 am

kenny thomas wrote:
RanchMan90 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Most use them only when they have a problem. Certainly won't hurt anything. We use to give every milk cow a similar probiotic bolus before they went into the milking herd.

I figured it couldn't hurt on high risk lightweight calves. The mass treatment antibiotic seems to knock their gut health for a bit?

I have to ask, why the mass antibiotic treatment to begin with?

Trying to cut down on death loss, I take in 40 head of 2-3 wt calves from several barns this week. A weak long acting antibiotic like la300 on arrival seems to cut down on doctoring. Always trying to tune my protocol to lower risk and improve health.
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