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Simm Bulls

Postby Bird » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:25 pm

For you simmental guys, what bulls would you pick to make super cow's?
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:49 pm

My favorite bull right now is Hudson Pine Farms Optimizer handled by Select Sires. I have two calves and sold a bull to a guy in Tennessee who loves him. Fire Sweep Simmentals has put several on the ground out near Springfield, MO and I have seen those. Plus, some at shows. Solid, great growth, good disposition. In fact, disposition is GREAT.

Have a couple Upgrades I like.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Franke » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:06 pm

Depends on what direction you are going, show/production. Shear Force, Dream On, Power Drive, and the Lucky lines have made some really good cows.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Gators Rule » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:21 pm

It would depend on the dam I'm breeding to.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:06 am

Franke wrote:Depends on what direction you are going, show/production. Shear Force, Dream On, Power Drive, and the Lucky lines have made some really good cows.


I have a year old heifer sired by Shear Force that looks great. Lots of Dream On in my herd.

Another bull known as a cow maker is Built Right.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Franke » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:29 am

Bright Raven wrote:
Franke wrote:Depends on what direction you are going, show/production. Shear Force, Dream On, Power Drive, and the Lucky lines have made some really good cows.


I have a year old heifer sired by Shear Force that looks great. Lots of Dream On in my herd.

Another bull known as a cow maker is Built Right.


Built Right is another one but still a Dream On son. To me what made those bulls so popular and good was that they worked on so many different types and kinds of cows and made them better.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:10 am

Franke wrote:
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Franke wrote:Depends on what direction you are going, show/production. Shear Force, Dream On, Power Drive, and the Lucky lines have made some really good cows.


I have a year old heifer sired by Shear Force that looks great. Lots of Dream On in my herd.

Another bull known as a cow maker is Built Right.


Built Right is another one but still a Dream On son. To me what made those bulls so popular and good was that they worked on so many different types and kinds of cows and made them better.


My group of registered Simmentals probably has more Built Right in their genome than any other pedigree. Good feet and udders.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:39 am

The Power Stroke lines made a lot of good females. Power Drive, Goldmine, and Ebony's Trademark being 3 popular sons. Dream On just made good Simmental cattle all the way around. Shear Force is very popular all around too. Agree with the Lucky lines as well. Yes, Built Right is known for his daughters. I thought Invasion made some nice cows. I also liked MR MT well.
Started with the Black Simmentals here with a TN State Fair Grand Champion Power Stroke son whom made terrific daughters. The first two females we purchased were MR MT and Lucky Dice daughters. Saved some females from them and we have later added Dream On's, Invasion, Built Right, Movin Forward pedigree's.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby insurman » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:23 am

Have any of you used Beef King or his son CDI Rimrock...Their EPD's are great with high accuracy with MCE, STAY(Rimrock) and API being real high.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:57 am

I think Beef King is an extended line of Shear Force and Dream On. Liked his sire Beef Maker the Shear Force son.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:41 pm

insurman wrote:Have any of you used Beef King or his son CDI Rimrock...Their EPD's are great with high accuracy with MCE, STAY(Rimrock) and API being real high.


Beef King is sired by Beef Maker, one of my favorite bulls. I have a few Beef Maker females in my herd, and they are awesome. I gave Bright Raven some Beef Maker semen to use.... I thought he would work well on his heifers.

I love Shear Force, and Built Right females also. They can do a fantastic job producing a nice calf every year. And of course, I have not had any problems with Upgrade, who will help your growth EPD's

But my favorite right now is HPF Optimizer, by far...
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby jd720 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:09 pm

I`m sure some will disagree but Grandmaster has made some pretty good cows. They may not have the growth epd`s but I still wish I would have had more heifers out of him I would`ve probably kept every one of them they just do their job and have a great disposition. He works well with the Dream On lines I `ve got a Grandmaster X Built Right cow, a Grandmaster X Shorthorn halfblood cow and a Pays to Believe X Grandmaster 3/4 heifer that's really nice. We don`t use him anymore just because there`s too many newer bulls I like. I should have my first Optimizer coming this fall I hope it turns out as good as some I`ve seen on here. If you`re wanting some real eye appeal use Bandwagon.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Franke » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:37 am

jd720 wrote:I`m sure some will disagree but Grandmaster has made some pretty good cows.
If you`re wanting some real eye appeal use Bandwagon.

I will but with the context of a very small sample at our place. One grandmaster heifer that was almost a fence jumper when you got near and didn't milk. I was happy to see her come up really late bred and we sold her. We have two Bandwagons yearlings and style isn't there forte. Love the mass and volume and power and movement of the heifer but shorter fronted. The bull we kept for a spare and to sell as a two year old hopefully looking better as a two year old than a yearling. But all of this is on an extremely small sample. :2cents:
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:54 pm

jd720 wrote:I`m sure some will disagree but Grandmaster has made some pretty good cows. They may not have the growth epd`s but I still wish I would have had more heifers out of him I would`ve probably kept every one of them they just do their job and have a great disposition. He works well with the Dream On lines I `ve got a Grandmaster X Built Right cow, a Grandmaster X Shorthorn halfblood cow and a Pays to Believe X Grandmaster 3/4 heifer that's really nice. We don`t use him anymore just because there`s too many newer bulls I like. I should have my first Optimizer coming this fall I hope it turns out as good as some I`ve seen on here. If you`re wanting some real eye appeal use Bandwagon.


I love the way the Grandmaster's look. We have had numerous ones. We only have one in the herd, and she sure is pretty. Won a bunch at fairs as a yearling. Any time we have visitors, they ask about her first. HOWEVER, she is a VERY small cow (runs about 1100 lbs), out of one of our BIGGEST cows (she runs around 1600), and she has just barely enough milk to raise a calf! She is out of our best cow line (A Built Right grand-dam, Shear Force dam), and every other calf from that line weans off the heaviest calves each year! Why do we keep her? She has a great disposition, is easy to work with, and we use her as a recip. I can supplement the calf to help the grow factor with grain, and every calf she weans off has her docile nature. I like this cow so much, we tried AIing her to Upgrade (who I know has a lot of grow in his calves). Her bull calf this year (Upgrade sired) was born the 1st of January, and MIGHT weigh 500 pounds by now! That is TINY for us! He is getting cut and being used as our carcass contest steer next year....So, again she proved that she can not raise a decent sized calf of her own genetics for our program.
I will not use Grandmaster again, there are better and newer bulls out there.
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Re: Simm Bulls

Postby Bird » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:11 pm

I kinda like the Santa Fe bull. Anyone have any experience with him?
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