Stifle injury, but not a downer

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Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Bigfoot » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:49 am

Got an old cow. Out in her stifle. Coming up on winter number 2 that way. Weaned her calf about a month ago. I know she's bred back. Raises the question what to do. She's three legged lame. Hate to see her go through another winter. Hate to shoot her. Hate to take one like that to the yard. I know that calf in her is pretty far along. What do yaw do with that kind.
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Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:05 am

I'd ship her. What little the barn will get you is better than nothing.
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Postby A.J. » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:24 am

Do you have a meat processor near you that might buy her? My wife's grandfather had one that had arthritis really bad and moved like she was in slow motion. He was afraid to run her through the sale barn in case she got down, so he sold her to the local packer, and did fairly well.
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Postby Bigfoot » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:04 pm

A.J. wrote:Do you have a meat processor near you that might buy her? My wife's grandfather had one that had arthritis really bad and moved like she was in slow motion. He was afraid to run her through the sale barn in case she got down, so he sold her to the local packer, and did fairly well.


Slaughter house, down the road from me. Didn't think about making her in to burger.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby callmefence » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:07 pm

I see no ethics violation in taking her to the sale and running her through palpated.
She'll limp through the ring and at the least you'll get slaughter price. If someone wants to try to take her home and get the calf that's their business.
It's not like your hiding anything, what you see is what you get.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Bigfoot » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:15 pm

callmefence wrote:I see no ethics violation in taking her to the sale and running her through palpated.
She'll limp through the ring and at the least you'll get slaughter price. If someone wants to try to take her home and get the calf that's their business.
It's not like your hiding anything, what you see is what you get.


True. I hadn't stayed at a sale long enough to see pound cows sell in years. I wonder if they'll even take one that's three legged lame.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:33 pm

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callmefence wrote:I see no ethics violation in taking her to the sale and running her through palpated.
She'll limp through the ring and at the least you'll get slaughter price. If someone wants to try to take her home and get the calf that's their business.
It's not like your hiding anything, what you see is what you get.


True. I hadn't stayed at a sale long enough to see pound cows sell in years. I wonder if they'll even take one that's three legged lame.


They'll take her as long as she can get up and walk through the ring. No downers are allowed to sell, and some barns won't accept a cow that won't sell because of the disposal cost.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby callmefence » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:47 pm

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callmefence wrote:I see no ethics violation in taking her to the sale and running her through palpated.
She'll limp through the ring and at the least you'll get slaughter price. If someone wants to try to take her home and get the calf that's their business.
It's not like your hiding anything, what you see is what you get.


True. I hadn't stayed at a sale long enough to see pound cows sell in years. I wonder if they'll even take one that's three legged lame.


They'll take her as long as she can get up and walk through the ring. No downers are allowed to sell, and some barns won't accept a cow that won't sell because of the disposal cost.


Same here as long as she can walk through the ring. If she's in decent shape you'll get hit but not as bad as you think.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Bigfoot » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:09 pm

I'll take her in next week then. She's not suffering. You always wonder, "Is that next calf worth more than she is?"
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Lucky_P » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:47 pm

Got one not unlike her... 16 yr old. Almost a pet, the Queen Mother, if you will... foot issue... not quite 3-legged, but pretty crippled up. Was gonna send her to the local custom-kill place and have her ground for donation to Salvation Army soup kitchen (we try to donate a cull cow that way every year or so). But... she's bred, and we like her enough to baby her along through the winter with the horses if we have to; her daughters are always phenomenal.
We won't send her to the local salebarn and have the yahoos there beating on her...she deserves better...so she'll either die here on the place or take a short ride to the custom place after this next calf is weaned.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Bigfoot » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Lucky_P wrote:Got one not unlike her... 16 yr old. Almost a pet, the Queen Mother, if you will... foot issue... not quite 3-legged, but pretty crippled up. Was gonna send her to the local custom-kill place and have her ground for donation to Salvation Army soup kitchen (we try to donate a cull cow that way every year or so). But... she's bred, and we like her enough to baby her along through the winter with the horses if we have to; her daughters are always phenomenal.
We won't send her to the local salebarn and have the yahoos there beating on her...she deserves better...so she'll either die here on the place or take a short ride to the custom place after this next calf is weaned.


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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby angus9259 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:28 pm

With a stifle, customer kill or butcher and donate. She's not worth much and if she gets mounted in the sale barn - which is likely - she could get broke for good. Not sure an animal deserves that if there's an alternative. Bred or not, no one is going to buy a three legged cow.

Getting another calf is a different matter. I calved one out with a bad stifle but had to put her in a separate paddock to keep the others from mounting her when she was in heat. Went through it once and it was brutal. Twice and I'd have had to put her in the ground.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Cross-7 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:34 pm

My 2 cents
Sale barn will steal her.
If you have a place to keep her and give her a bale of hay till she raises her calf then grind her into HB.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby TCRanch » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:34 pm

Timely post, Bigfoot. I have a 5 month old steer that has a stifle injury and I'm not sure what to do. He gets around and is always on the fringe of the herd but I don't know whether to wean him with the others. He'll clearly take a hit at the Sale Barn so I thought about posting/trying to sell him as a feeder, private treaty (we already have way too much meat for 2 people). Thoughts?

Okay, and here is my 2 cents on keeping an old fave "one more year" because she's heavy bred: NO!! We kept one of our old faves with a chronic wonky foot & it bit us in the arse. We were going to sell her last year but the day we were going to load her she calved. In our defense, she's been terminally obese since we got her as a 3 year old & always looks 9 months bred (but clearly we weren't looking at her bag/hoo-hoo). So we moved her to a small pasture where she could get around easier and she raised a nice calf. I'll be darned if that fat girl wasn't bred again when we had her checked this spring so she got yet another reprieve. Had her calf and stepped on it's head when she was trying to get up. Horrific and buh-bye! I'm absolutely selling another fave next month because I don't want to go through another year of a bad bag & supplementing her calf with a bottle.
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Re: Stifle injury, but not a downer

Postby Ojp6 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:48 pm

Bigfoot wrote:
callmefence wrote:I see no ethics violation in taking her to the sale and running her through palpated.
She'll limp through the ring and at the least you'll get slaughter price. If someone wants to try to take her home and get the calf that's their business.
It's not like your hiding anything, what you see is what you get.


True. I hadn't stayed at a sale long enough to see pound cows sell in years. I wonder if they'll even take one that's three legged lame.


If she will stand up and get off the trailer just bring her next Thursday and she should bring something. What she brings will depend mostly on whether she looks like she will make a ride somewhere fairly upright.
All the cripples get penned by themselves so nothing gets rode too bad most of the time.
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