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Re: Good morning

Post by Hippie Rancher » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:41 pm

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It is pretty simple. How big is the calf? Small enough to man handle fairly easily? if it is too big to handle either get an experienced person or the vet.
Tie its head to a post. Preferably in a corner but along a fence will work. One person put a leg against its side and mash it against the fence. Same person grab the tail and lift up. Put some upward pressure on that tail. Person #2 goes behind the calf. With a sharp knife cut off the bottom third of the sack. Get a hold of a nut and pull straight down. Keep pulling until it breaks loose. Repeat on the second nut. There will be some small cords hanging down. Pull them out as far as possible and cut them off (usually wrap around the finger to pull). Spray with a disinfectant. Turn it loose.
I am not a vet but that is how a vet taught me over 50 years ago. Since then I have cut thousands of calves.
or put it on the ground, tie three legs



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Re: Good morning

Post by Dave » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:49 pm

Hippie Rancher wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:41 pm
Dave wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:20 pm

It is pretty simple. How big is the calf? Small enough to man handle fairly easily? if it is too big to handle either get an experienced person or the vet.
Tie its head to a post. Preferably in a corner but along a fence will work. One person put a leg against its side and mash it against the fence. Same person grab the tail and lift up. Put some upward pressure on that tail. Person #2 goes behind the calf. With a sharp knife cut off the bottom third of the sack. Get a hold of a nut and pull straight down. Keep pulling until it breaks loose. Repeat on the second nut. There will be some small cords hanging down. Pull them out as far as possible and cut them off (usually wrap around the finger to pull). Spray with a disinfectant. Turn it loose.
I am not a vet but that is how a vet taught me over 50 years ago. Since then I have cut thousands of calves.
or put it on the ground, tie three legs
Or stretched between two horses. Or in a calf table. Or on the ground with someone kneeling on the neck holding a front leg while another person is sitting behind it with a foot holding the bottom leg forward and pulling to top leg back. Or one horse on the back legs with a short rope on the front legs tied to an inner tube which is fastened to a stake in the ground. Or a rope on two back legs fastened high enough in the air that when the calf is tipped over his hips are a couple inches off the ground. Or a Nord Fork on the neck and a horse pulling on the hind legs.
That is all the possible combinations that I can think of that I have been involved in. Well I did a couple tied in the front of a stock trailer but that is just a variation of my first post.
And if the OP hit the road all this is a mute point.

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Re: Good morning

Post by Hippie Rancher » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:06 pm

LOL. yeah.

never knew the name for the fork. have done just about all of those versions myself. including on big monsters. just started banding some this year, for an added variation.

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Re: Good morning

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:43 am

You are all not very political correct. What about pain relief both during the procedure and during recovery. I think there is stuff here called "Numnuts" and various forms of Meloxicam for after. My take on it is you have to be seen to be doing the right thing, doesn't really matter whether it actually works as long as you went through the process, probably caused more distress to the animal administering whatever as opposed to a fast efficient operator.

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Re: Good morning

Post by sstterry » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:05 am

Silver wrote:
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I never get the memos :(
There is a reason for that......... :lol:

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Re: Good morning

Post by Dave » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:28 am

wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:43 am
You are all not very political correct. What about pain relief both during the procedure and during recovery. I think there is stuff here called "Numnuts" and various forms of Meloxicam for after. My take on it is you have to be seen to be doing the right thing, doesn't really matter whether it actually works as long as you went through the process, probably caused more distress to the animal administering whatever as opposed to a fast efficient operator.

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Who has time for some sort of pain relief? I counted it up. I went to 10 brandings here this spring. There was one with 76 calves, one with 140 calves, the rest were all 200+ calves. Calves are roped and drug to the fire. They are branded, castrated, given 2 or 3 shots, and ear tagged or dehorned if needed. 200 calves in around 3 hours. Slam bam we are done, next. Calf is back to mom well before any pain relief would take affect.

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Re: Good morning

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:56 pm

Dave wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:28 am
wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:43 am
You are all not very political correct. What about pain relief both during the procedure and during recovery. I think there is stuff here called "Numnuts" and various forms of Meloxicam for after. My take on it is you have to be seen to be doing the right thing, doesn't really matter whether it actually works as long as you went through the process, probably caused more distress to the animal administering whatever as opposed to a fast efficient operator.

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Who has time for some sort of pain relief? I counted it up. I went to 10 brandings here this spring. There was one with 76 calves, one with 140 calves, the rest were all 200+ calves. Calves are roped and drug to the fire. They are branded, castrated, given 2 or 3 shots, and ear tagged or dehorned if needed. 200 calves in around 3 hours. Slam bam we are done, next. Calf is back to mom well before any pain relief would take affect.
Dave, I agree, but this is what is getting preached here. No doubt the drug companies are behind it as they see an opportunity for repurposing one of their products. The closer to the coast and major cities we are the more carefull we have to be as farms get invaded by the animal activists, vegans. Do you have that problem over there?

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Re: Good morning

Post by Dave » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:25 pm

wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:56 pm
Dave wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:28 am
wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:43 am
You are all not very political correct. What about pain relief both during the procedure and during recovery. I think there is stuff here called "Numnuts" and various forms of Meloxicam for after. My take on it is you have to be seen to be doing the right thing, doesn't really matter whether it actually works as long as you went through the process, probably caused more distress to the animal administering whatever as opposed to a fast efficient operator.

Ken
Who has time for some sort of pain relief? I counted it up. I went to 10 brandings here this spring. There was one with 76 calves, one with 140 calves, the rest were all 200+ calves. Calves are roped and drug to the fire. They are branded, castrated, given 2 or 3 shots, and ear tagged or dehorned if needed. 200 calves in around 3 hours. Slam bam we are done, next. Calf is back to mom well before any pain relief would take affect.
Dave, I agree, but this is what is getting preached here. No doubt the drug companies are behind it as they see an opportunity for repurposing one of their products. The closer to the coast and major cities we are the more carefull we have to be as farms get invaded by the animal activists, vegans. Do you have that problem over there?

Ken
They might have that issue on the East Coast. But here in Baker County Oregon it is cow country. I will just say that the welcome wagon would not be rolled out for animal activists or vegans. One city of about 9,000 people. The other 7,000 residents are spread over 3,000+ square miles. Cows out number people by 5 times or more.

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Re: Good morning

Post by CreekAngus » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:27 pm

Dave wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:25 pm
wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:56 pm
Dave wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:28 am

Who has time for some sort of pain relief? I counted it up. I went to 10 brandings here this spring. There was one with 76 calves, one with 140 calves, the rest were all 200+ calves. Calves are roped and drug to the fire. They are branded, castrated, given 2 or 3 shots, and ear tagged or dehorned if needed. 200 calves in around 3 hours. Slam bam we are done, next. Calf is back to mom well before any pain relief would take affect.
Dave, I agree, but this is what is getting preached here. No doubt the drug companies are behind it as they see an opportunity for repurposing one of their products. The closer to the coast and major cities we are the more carefull we have to be as farms get invaded by the animal activists, vegans. Do you have that problem over there?

Ken
They might have that issue on the East Coast. But here in Baker County Oregon it is cow country. I will just say that the welcome wagon would not be rolled out for animal activists or vegans. One city of about 9,000 people. The other 7,000 residents are spread over 3,000+ square miles. Cows out number people by 5 times or more.
That’s my kind of county! I went rolling past your place on Sunday, the most beautiful spot in the world is the west side of Baker City. Hopefully the numbnuts from the west side never make over to that side of the hill, every day this side keeps getting over run by libtards.
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Re: Good morning

Post by Dave » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:31 am

CreekAngus wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:27 pm
Dave wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:25 pm
wbvs58 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:56 pm

Dave, I agree, but this is what is getting preached here. No doubt the drug companies are behind it as they see an opportunity for repurposing one of their products. The closer to the coast and major cities we are the more carefull we have to be as farms get invaded by the animal activists, vegans. Do you have that problem over there?

Ken
They might have that issue on the East Coast. But here in Baker County Oregon it is cow country. I will just say that the welcome wagon would not be rolled out for animal activists or vegans. One city of about 9,000 people. The other 7,000 residents are spread over 3,000+ square miles. Cows out number people by 5 times or more.
That’s my kind of county! I went rolling past your place on Sunday, the most beautiful spot in the world is the west side of Baker City. Hopefully the numbnuts from the west side never make over to that side of the hill, every day this side keeps getting over run by libtards.
Yes, every time I have to go to the coast for some reason when I come down off Ladd Pass into Clover Creek and North Powder I take a deep breath. I am home and this is where I need to be.

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Re: Good morning

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:21 pm

Silver wrote:
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TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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How old / big is this calf?
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