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There are many Angus that are scored at sales time as 18 month old bulls. Their genomic boost is likely created by scores of young cattle as well. Their scores are wonderful. But within a year or less the quality diminishes. I've seen it on trial AI bulls and it is commonly occurring. The folks...

Sounds like a loose connection. Are you using dissimilar metals?

I think that the current scoring is done too young and is more of a smokescreen to protect promoters. If it was working there would be less bad footed cattle being sold. I know that there is an environmental element but there are obvious genetic issues if you look at various herds and sires. Lip...

What is badly needed are research projects to identify genes that are tied to bad feet and how many generations it takes to get them out of the population. If you use a bull that sires daughters with good udders, he can fix likely 90% of the problems in one generation. Disposition is not as sure...

Don't kiss the cow.

People buy into registered animals and their recent investment makes them the newest sage of the subject sitting up on the mountaintop. The more they spend, the higher the instant IQ. I just discussed a historic Angus herd with a guy who was mad that folks with long term experiences and...

And at the same time, the government wages a campaign against smoking. Ying and yang all from the same source and using tax dollars to fund the contradictions.

To me - the litmus test - Why do folks go back and use older bulls that they have used before? What do they say? Do they say, "Well his EPDs have improved since the last time I used him" or do they say, "He did a great job and I love his sons and daughters"? The results matter in those decisions...

It depends on the skill of the breeder. If you use old AI bulls, you cannot rely on the EPDs. The breed disses the old animals and gives them poor EPDs. In those cases, you deal with experience, advice from older folks or reported individual data. The AAA has a table of yearly EPDs and AHIA...

From what I have seen of bulls that friends have recently purchased from herds that value enhanced EPDs, the hoof scores are not worth a toot.

Same for Angus. EPDs are climbing and the AHIR average data is stagnant. It is a broken system merely used for promotion. Real data and individual data are the highway. Add in observed type. known ancestors and such. EPDs are the guardrails on the outside of the shoulders. EPDs are good to...

I hope that most of us are smarter and more discerning than that.

Didn't say that it was not a real option. I have fed broiler litter put through a complete heat with cracked corn during droughts. But the writer had no proof of dairies feeding litter but just spun a story off of "what if". That is not journalism based on reporting facts.

Sounds like a fake story. Go around any dairy and the birds and pigeons are around in flocks.

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If the herd's general EPDs are not attractive or point out problems then why publish them? Just saying.

Feed high mag minerals and don't buy some cheap junk that is so bitter that they will not touch it.

You must be too far north. Here it gets up to 7' tall and does well.

How much experience do you have with inbreeding? For a year, a decade, several decades? One species or several? Dogs and horses are special when they are inbred and better. Cows are seen as the pits if they are inbred. I've never understood that mindset. I know that there are things that come...

One is a fear of the known - bringing home diseases. One is the fear of the unknown - will I see a defect? Folks would rather fight the known with meds and whatever else than take an unknown risk. It is the type of risk that you are accustomed to. I'd bet that there are folks doing all of the...