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They make me sweat. I just can't see where there is any room in these prices for any kind of unanticipated risk.

The sale I went to yesterday had a bunch of solid black first calf heifer pairs, February calves, and they were going up to $3600

There isn't a bull there that I'd be bidding on. They're all weak in the top line and gutty and leggy and lightly muscled. Not a beef type bull in the bunch. And I'm sorry if anyone here is affiliated with the sale or the bulls being sold... but they look like animals I would cut and not expect...

Did you have alot of bull calves first, and then more heifers? Or the opposite? Or was it consistently mixed?

Apparently my explanation is not clear enough? I never said they were bred to attack. They are bred to win in a conflict. Two different things. Tenacity and focus are not the same thing as aggression. I said in another post that pits are no more likely to bite than other breeds.

I didn't accuse anyone. I gave an opinion about keeping dogs that are found. Thanks for both your efforts to the dog and for the further explanation... none of which was in your initial post. There was another dog that was found and discussed on a different thread and as far as I could discern...

Might beeeee... who wants to know? Just returning to the Amish topic. And I'm curious. The different people I'm most accustomed to are fundy Mormons.

Well... you haven't answered my question about this statement you made... so I guess I'll express an opinion. I've met people that think a wayward dog is fair game to take home and own. I think they are good hearted people, and have the dog's best interests at heart. I don't doubt that. But...

Do Amish people own a lot of dogs? If they own dogs, is it seen as something useful to the family/farm, or a show of something they don't really need? And if they own dogs, how do they treat them? Are the dogs well trained? What kind of dogs do Amish people own?

I've found that it's best to avoid processed foods, and eat fresh as much as possible. Minimize boxes, bags, and cans. Blood pressure varies between 130 and 100 at the top end, usually in the lower teens. Cholesterol acceptable. Heart rate 60ish. Wife has similar numbers. No prescription meds in...

Most aggression attributed to breeds is the result of a genetic trait that is either minimal or enhanced. We select for docility when we look at a bulls EPD stats. Of course environment can be a contributing factor. We breed dogs for our own purposes. Most of the abilities we select for are...

Good on you... But how do you know they aren't looking for him?

(facepalm) It's really strange when someone has a single year of experience that they've repeated twenty+ times and they think they know it all. Where the h*ll do you think natural ability comes from??? The tooth fairy? Genetics 101...

The reason they are not used is because they are difficult to call off. If they carry the trait to be focused in an attack they don't release on command. And it's difficult for even experienced trainers to reliably determine how focused a pit will be. Just like bird dogs, some are less capable...

That's most people's experience. They've never seen a triggered dog. Interestingly, pit bulls are no more likely to bite than other breeds, which seems like a contradiction. The breed most likely to bite is the Chihuahua. And Cocker Spaniels are said to have the worst bite. But there are a lot...

You said, "They knew they had a human aggressive dog and did nothing about it. They also should not have turned any dog loose with a new kid in the yard, unsupervised." When I had said, "a dog that my grandson (who was playing with his friend, a person living with the dog) had played with...

Please reread what I wrote... The tenacity genes involved in the pit type attack pattern actually protect those that are trying to pull the dog off of its victim. In a focused attack the dog is only concentrating on its victim. There are plenty of videos you can review where the attacking dog...

My own kids have never understood why I don't see pit type dogs as a good idea. Dad says it... so it must be wrong syndrome. We've all gone through it so I really can't blame them. But about five years ago my 10 year old grandson was playing with a friend in the friend's back yard, sitting on a...