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<blockquote data-quote="Farm Family" data-source="post: 1838564" data-attributes="member: 43070"><p>I am not sure what you are asking me? "Choose to identify myself in that way"? I assume "Farm Family"? Not sure…Anyways…For your information we too make a living farming. We too have a family farm. I am not new to this industry! Not an expert but been around the agriculture block! I understand "generations"…maybe not the same as others on this board and I certainly do not have all the experience, I am sure others on this board have, but I still have a right to my opinion based on my personal experience. You are welcome to challenge the opinion but to insinuate that what I said is a non-reality or accusing farmers because I don't measure to your standards is curious. And it begs me to question who is accusing who of living an always "beautiful life". I am a huge advocate of the beef industry, farmers and agriculture my post did not come from a place of pointing fingers…or that was certainly not my intent.</p><p></p><p>The question was "Yes or No: Take Heavy Bred Cows to Market?" And I have zero issue saying that in my opinion let your heavy breds calve before you send them to market! Or find a new home ready for their condition! (heavy bred to me is calving any day). And I backed that opinion with real situations I have seen, experienced, been taught about etc. And I said "not what people want to hear" because clearly with the backlash I have received it is uncomfortable to say that sometimes we don't represent our industry well and sometimes we let the drive for money sell us short…my comments were more we can do better. And maybe one way of doing better is considering when and how our heavy breds go to market! </p><p></p><p>My opinion is we do not ship our heavy bred cattle because of the examples I gave, the <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="💩" title="Pile of poo :poop:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f4a9.png" data-shortname=":poop:" /> that can go down (we think she is open and she is not or she calves 14 days before we thought)! We, as farmers should advocate and yes, teach these realities!</p><p></p><p>I would hope it is not normally established "family generational should know better" operations that make these imo "poor" decisions but beginners who don't know their cattle are too far along to ship or have never considered the consequences should be told! You are more than welcome to ship your heavy breds…clearly many do!</p><p></p><p>As for making money…I know all too well those challenges! Guess I am the foolish one for putting animal welfare before my pocketbook and well that could explain a few things <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> but I answer to my conscious and integrity and well to the creator! I rather calve her out, sell as a pair or calve her out graft the calf, if my cull reason is her ability to wean the calf she carries, and then sell the cow, burger her, whatever than take a chance my heavy bred calves at the most inappropriate time!</p><p></p><p>I personally feel that animal welfare is a consideration and we farmers should be responsible about those public concerns, those reality issues. If you want to unload heavy breds you can, no one says you cannot! I personally feel there are better methods than the auction mart! </p><p></p><p>As an industry and livestock producers we should be mature enough to discuss issues surrounding husbandry, animal welfare and scruples! Classtime over<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farm Family, post: 1838564, member: 43070"] I am not sure what you are asking me? "Choose to identify myself in that way"? I assume “Farm Family”? Not sure…Anyways…For your information we too make a living farming. We too have a family farm. I am not new to this industry! Not an expert but been around the agriculture block! I understand "generations"…maybe not the same as others on this board and I certainly do not have all the experience, I am sure others on this board have, but I still have a right to my opinion based on my personal experience. You are welcome to challenge the opinion but to insinuate that what I said is a non-reality or accusing farmers because I don't measure to your standards is curious. And it begs me to question who is accusing who of living an always “beautiful life”. I am a huge advocate of the beef industry, farmers and agriculture my post did not come from a place of pointing fingers…or that was certainly not my intent. The question was "Yes or No: Take Heavy Bred Cows to Market?" And I have zero issue saying that in my opinion let your heavy breds calve before you send them to market! Or find a new home ready for their condition! (heavy bred to me is calving any day). And I backed that opinion with real situations I have seen, experienced, been taught about etc. And I said “not what people want to hear” because clearly with the backlash I have received it is uncomfortable to say that sometimes we don’t represent our industry well and sometimes we let the drive for money sell us short…my comments were more we can do better. And maybe one way of doing better is considering when and how our heavy breds go to market! My opinion is we do not ship our heavy bred cattle because of the examples I gave, the 💩 that can go down (we think she is open and she is not or she calves 14 days before we thought)! We, as farmers should advocate and yes, teach these realities! I would hope it is not normally established “family generational should know better” operations that make these imo “poor” decisions but beginners who don't know their cattle are too far along to ship or have never considered the consequences should be told! You are more than welcome to ship your heavy breds…clearly many do! As for making money…I know all too well those challenges! Guess I am the foolish one for putting animal welfare before my pocketbook and well that could explain a few things 😂 but I answer to my conscious and integrity and well to the creator! I rather calve her out, sell as a pair or calve her out graft the calf, if my cull reason is her ability to wean the calf she carries, and then sell the cow, burger her, whatever than take a chance my heavy bred calves at the most inappropriate time! I personally feel that animal welfare is a consideration and we farmers should be responsible about those public concerns, those reality issues. If you want to unload heavy breds you can, no one says you cannot! I personally feel there are better methods than the auction mart! As an industry and livestock producers we should be mature enough to discuss issues surrounding husbandry, animal welfare and scruples! Classtime over😂 [/QUOTE]
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