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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1555926" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>I don't sell steers because the demand for our bulls and the ability to sell them makes it more profitable for us to not cut them. However, I am tossing around the idea of cutting all non-AI bull calves in the future. Not a definite because if I can get $3-4k for a bull, even if it's a grandson of a top AI sires like SAV Harvestor, SAV International, Hoover Dam, etc. why would I cut him and sell that animal for $1k, unless of course, something was wrong with the animal that would not make him suitable for service. This is not just my opinion, several people I know have said "don't cut any bulls if they can be registered and they are of quality, you are throwing money away" I watch the sales closely in Kentucky and very few if any are comprised COMPLETELY of AI sons, most have AI sons at the beginning and then it's all grandsons or great-grandsons of top AI sires. Those sales produce some big profits on grandsons and great grandsons, which is why I mention this above.</p><p></p><p>WIth that said I still want to build a steer operation, because you guys and gals are right, I do believe if you can prove what you are producing is very high quality, via the information on the steers, then you have another feather in your cap when selling seed stock. We have sold a few steers it's been years ago, and they ran through the stockyards, but we of course did not get any info on them. I've debated on using registered cows and bulls to start a steer business, versus buying outside animals and developing them out with our bulls, but then I get back to the issue of cutting bulls that can be registered and would work fine for most commercial producers. I also like the idea of a cross of registered Angus and purebred Shorthorns, but I've been told that I would get absolutely killed selling those, even though the carcass merits would probably be very good if not excellent. </p><p></p><p>On a side note, why do people look down on the Shorthorn? In my research they were held in pretty high esteem in the 1800's and into the early 1900's. They have excellent marbling and they are great milkers. They were definitely not low rent cattle.</p><p></p><p>I apologize for not wording things correctly with CAB. I've called CAB a couple of times now, was asked to leave a voicemail, and did not receive a call back. Which was a little surprising? I've spoken to Creekstone and they were definitely interested in our cattle, and even more so if I would cross them with Wagyu, which after more research, I'm not ready to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1555926, member: 37967"] I don't sell steers because the demand for our bulls and the ability to sell them makes it more profitable for us to not cut them. However, I am tossing around the idea of cutting all non-AI bull calves in the future. Not a definite because if I can get $3-4k for a bull, even if it's a grandson of a top AI sires like SAV Harvestor, SAV International, Hoover Dam, etc. why would I cut him and sell that animal for $1k, unless of course, something was wrong with the animal that would not make him suitable for service. This is not just my opinion, several people I know have said "don't cut any bulls if they can be registered and they are of quality, you are throwing money away" I watch the sales closely in Kentucky and very few if any are comprised COMPLETELY of AI sons, most have AI sons at the beginning and then it's all grandsons or great-grandsons of top AI sires. Those sales produce some big profits on grandsons and great grandsons, which is why I mention this above. WIth that said I still want to build a steer operation, because you guys and gals are right, I do believe if you can prove what you are producing is very high quality, via the information on the steers, then you have another feather in your cap when selling seed stock. We have sold a few steers it's been years ago, and they ran through the stockyards, but we of course did not get any info on them. I've debated on using registered cows and bulls to start a steer business, versus buying outside animals and developing them out with our bulls, but then I get back to the issue of cutting bulls that can be registered and would work fine for most commercial producers. I also like the idea of a cross of registered Angus and purebred Shorthorns, but I've been told that I would get absolutely killed selling those, even though the carcass merits would probably be very good if not excellent. On a side note, why do people look down on the Shorthorn? In my research they were held in pretty high esteem in the 1800's and into the early 1900's. They have excellent marbling and they are great milkers. They were definitely not low rent cattle. I apologize for not wording things correctly with CAB. I've called CAB a couple of times now, was asked to leave a voicemail, and did not receive a call back. Which was a little surprising? I've spoken to Creekstone and they were definitely interested in our cattle, and even more so if I would cross them with Wagyu, which after more research, I'm not ready to do. [/QUOTE]
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