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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1766508" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>I can't give you a set of rules to not make a calf too pushy with her head. I have one that has been friendly from a calf on her mother and can get in my face but I can give her an open handed slap on the side of her face and tell her NO BRAT... and then work from the side of her neck and scratch her neck, throat, or whatever. She doesn't take offense and backs off and then wants to be scratched... I never singled her out for being a pet... she just likes people.... </p><p>I try hard to feed a calf from its side.. not standing directly in front of it... because of their NATURAL and normal tendency to butt. After the first couple of feedings to get it good at wanting the bottle. I stand next to them and hold the bottle in front and they bend their neck around a little like they would on a cow....but it stops the getting butted and a swift PAIN in the crotch or thigh....</p><p>I can't imagine using a pvc pipe... I smack them right in the nose with a flat hand and say NO... My longhorn will come down to the barn and I can just stop her with a NO JESS... and she will stand there and not try to push through me for grain. Maybe it is my tone of voice... and I have gotten LOUD a couple of times... but they know if I say NO they had better not shove or get too aggressive. </p><p>If the cow hates to be haltered.... get a halter on her and leave it on her. Get a COW halter, NOT an adapted horse halter. They cannot tolerate the tightness under the throat latch area like a horse.. the cow halters crisscross under the throat area, above the chin, with a ring there to hold it "together" so to speak; so they don't get a tightness... a rope halter is different. </p><p>My one nurse cow is pushy in the barn in the feed trough. She will back off when I put the grain in there... and I respect her eating space. She will flip a calf if they get in her space... I have hollered at her... but it is her grain... </p><p>It starts from the beginning... and I have just gotten so that I will not tolerate one that tries to run me over for the grain bucket. The beef cows will come and crowd you at the feed trough and I get it... so now mostly I will feed in the troughs in the catch pen with the gate closed since I cannot move fast enough to get out of their way. Then I let them in... but a single cow cannot be allowed to be "the boss" if you don't want to get hurt. It starts with them as small calves. </p><p>I don't want them to be "big babies" in the barn...</p><p></p><p>I will tell you that many of the dairy heifers that are shown are also the very worst witches in the barn when they come fresh. And I work with a couple of farmers that show their cattle and they will even talk about how some of the heifers are the worst after they have been pampered on the show circuit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1766508, member: 25884"] I can't give you a set of rules to not make a calf too pushy with her head. I have one that has been friendly from a calf on her mother and can get in my face but I can give her an open handed slap on the side of her face and tell her NO BRAT... and then work from the side of her neck and scratch her neck, throat, or whatever. She doesn't take offense and backs off and then wants to be scratched... I never singled her out for being a pet... she just likes people.... I try hard to feed a calf from its side.. not standing directly in front of it... because of their NATURAL and normal tendency to butt. After the first couple of feedings to get it good at wanting the bottle. I stand next to them and hold the bottle in front and they bend their neck around a little like they would on a cow....but it stops the getting butted and a swift PAIN in the crotch or thigh.... I can't imagine using a pvc pipe... I smack them right in the nose with a flat hand and say NO... My longhorn will come down to the barn and I can just stop her with a NO JESS... and she will stand there and not try to push through me for grain. Maybe it is my tone of voice... and I have gotten LOUD a couple of times... but they know if I say NO they had better not shove or get too aggressive. If the cow hates to be haltered.... get a halter on her and leave it on her. Get a COW halter, NOT an adapted horse halter. They cannot tolerate the tightness under the throat latch area like a horse.. the cow halters crisscross under the throat area, above the chin, with a ring there to hold it "together" so to speak; so they don't get a tightness... a rope halter is different. My one nurse cow is pushy in the barn in the feed trough. She will back off when I put the grain in there... and I respect her eating space. She will flip a calf if they get in her space... I have hollered at her... but it is her grain... It starts from the beginning... and I have just gotten so that I will not tolerate one that tries to run me over for the grain bucket. The beef cows will come and crowd you at the feed trough and I get it... so now mostly I will feed in the troughs in the catch pen with the gate closed since I cannot move fast enough to get out of their way. Then I let them in... but a single cow cannot be allowed to be "the boss" if you don't want to get hurt. It starts with them as small calves. I don't want them to be "big babies" in the barn... I will tell you that many of the dairy heifers that are shown are also the very worst witches in the barn when they come fresh. And I work with a couple of farmers that show their cattle and they will even talk about how some of the heifers are the worst after they have been pampered on the show circuit. [/QUOTE]
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