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<blockquote data-quote="simme" data-source="post: 1823926" data-attributes="member: 40418"><p>Several years ago when the lethal genetic defects in US angus were recognized and tests were developed, I remember seeing many AAA breeders continue to sell carrier bulls in their yearly bull sales in those early days. Maybe adding AMC or NHC in the catalog or maybe not. But no notes on what those letters meant. I guess those calves were already in the pipeline when the issue was understood. Many/most buyers at those sales are commercial guys that might not be up to date immediately on those issues. They may not have even heard of them at that time. </p><p></p><p>I am just a tiny speck of the simmental industry. Probably closer to a multiplier than a breeder. But for me, I am not going to knowingly sell a defective animal to anyone unless I point out the issue and decide that the potential buyer understands the issue and the risk. I would feel guilty if I watched an animal go out the driveway with a hidden defect that I was aware of. If I have a cow that I don't think deserves to have another calf, I haul her to the auction, tell them to not sleeve her and send her to the pound pen. That is just my conclusion of what I need to do. Everyone else can decide for themselves.</p><p></p><p>I have never owned an angus. I have used some angus bulls on simmental cows. The genetic issue of PA in Charolais cattle and how the breed handled it (or maybe did not handle it) does not fit with my thinking either. Mutations can occur and may take a long time to surface and be understood. But once you pull the refrigerator away from the wall and see all the dust and filth, it is time to clean up and get rid of it instead of squinting the eyes and sliding it back in place and hope no one sees it. My opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simme, post: 1823926, member: 40418"] Several years ago when the lethal genetic defects in US angus were recognized and tests were developed, I remember seeing many AAA breeders continue to sell carrier bulls in their yearly bull sales in those early days. Maybe adding AMC or NHC in the catalog or maybe not. But no notes on what those letters meant. I guess those calves were already in the pipeline when the issue was understood. Many/most buyers at those sales are commercial guys that might not be up to date immediately on those issues. They may not have even heard of them at that time. I am just a tiny speck of the simmental industry. Probably closer to a multiplier than a breeder. But for me, I am not going to knowingly sell a defective animal to anyone unless I point out the issue and decide that the potential buyer understands the issue and the risk. I would feel guilty if I watched an animal go out the driveway with a hidden defect that I was aware of. If I have a cow that I don't think deserves to have another calf, I haul her to the auction, tell them to not sleeve her and send her to the pound pen. That is just my conclusion of what I need to do. Everyone else can decide for themselves. I have never owned an angus. I have used some angus bulls on simmental cows. The genetic issue of PA in Charolais cattle and how the breed handled it (or maybe did not handle it) does not fit with my thinking either. Mutations can occur and may take a long time to surface and be understood. But once you pull the refrigerator away from the wall and see all the dust and filth, it is time to clean up and get rid of it instead of squinting the eyes and sliding it back in place and hope no one sees it. My opinion. [/QUOTE]
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