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Update on the Kudzu- Corriente herd since we sold it.
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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1795536" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>Those things probably cost more than the cows did. Probably buy a few for what one of those cost. And, putting them on a dairy cow that is handled twice a day, would be a lot easier than putting them on Corrientes that get handled twice a year! </p><p></p><p> Scott has 450 acres across the road that he raises peanuts, beans, corn and cotton on. Our dove field takes up 50 acres, and the other 400 are in crops. It is divided by fence into 4 fields about 100 acres each. This year he is just doing beans and peanuts. Last night we were talking about maybe taking that 400 and turning it into pasture. Dunno if they are state or federal programs, but right now one grant will pay $3k or so an acre, for you to plant or sprig grass and fertilize it to UGA specs, on former row crop land. The other grant will pay for cross fencing if the perimeter fence is up and you have at least 35 cows. This place already has the perimeter fence, and each 100 acre field and the dove field is fenced in. He would use the grant to cross-fence each 100 acre field...make them about 50 acres each. And, the Extension Service right now, will plant their newly developed World Feeder Bermuda and a hot-weather strain of Alfalfa they have developed. Both of these were developed more for grazing than hay. You just have to sign an agreement to send soil samples in yearly, and fertilize to specs. I was at a joint FFA and 4H meeting for all the schools last night, for Ag Day. I saw our Extension agent there, and asked him if he could find any info about blister beetles in this mix, and he said he would get back to me.</p><p></p><p>So, we were talking last night about filling that place up with Brahmas, and breeding Black Hereford buils to them. My client that bought the 80 Brahmas, had about 20 calves that were by Black Herefords. Someone already paid him for the black heifers and will get them in July at weaning. He has contracted to buy every black Herf heifer the man produced next year, which is one reason he wants about 50 more Brahma cows. He will use sexed semen on them. He already has AI'ed 20 of those 80 with Black hereFord. We can sell the heifers for $250 or more than the red or brindled sell for, and those black steers will sell better too. </p><p></p><p>BUT, we would be looking at buying $2500 Brahma cows vs $250 Corr cows. 10 to 1. And we'd have to vaccinate, worm, etc. And wean, then wait til they were yearlings to sell those heifers. We'd be getting $1500 to $2k each for them, but we could have gotten TEN $750 calves out of the 10 Corrs, and with no inputs. Having to rethink my own advice about NOT doing the Corr x Brangus thing with quality , improved pasture. We figured on the 400 acres, plus turning them on to the dove field after the season, we could run 300 Corrs without having to feed. $75k investment in cows, that would give us $225,000 worth of calves. We figured we could run 100 Brahmas on it, at a $250k investment, and unless we AI'd, we'd wean about 50 $750 steers and about 50 $1500 or so yearling heifers. If we did AI, there is that expense. but 100 even $2000 yearling heifers, would give us $200k out of $250k worth of cows vs $225k for the Brangus x Corr calves out of $75k worth of cows. And we'd have the AI and other inputs with those Brahmas. But, we don't know if the Corrs could wean a 500 lb calf, on that grass vs the 25% protein Kudzu. We might would have to give them protein tubs, too. </p><p></p><p>So, what would <em>you</em> do? Anybody? Y'all talk me into the Brahmas...I really want to see what we could do with them! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> and just last week, I said when I bought those 80- Brahmkas fopr Wayne I was DONE. Was gonna go fishing and take it easy after that!!! So much for that plan!! </p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, and $250k would max out the amount I could get on a corporate loan without co-signing, so that would be all the trading I could do for a year without using my money;.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1795536, member: 40587"] Those things probably cost more than the cows did. Probably buy a few for what one of those cost. And, putting them on a dairy cow that is handled twice a day, would be a lot easier than putting them on Corrientes that get handled twice a year! Scott has 450 acres across the road that he raises peanuts, beans, corn and cotton on. Our dove field takes up 50 acres, and the other 400 are in crops. It is divided by fence into 4 fields about 100 acres each. This year he is just doing beans and peanuts. Last night we were talking about maybe taking that 400 and turning it into pasture. Dunno if they are state or federal programs, but right now one grant will pay $3k or so an acre, for you to plant or sprig grass and fertilize it to UGA specs, on former row crop land. The other grant will pay for cross fencing if the perimeter fence is up and you have at least 35 cows. This place already has the perimeter fence, and each 100 acre field and the dove field is fenced in. He would use the grant to cross-fence each 100 acre field...make them about 50 acres each. And, the Extension Service right now, will plant their newly developed World Feeder Bermuda and a hot-weather strain of Alfalfa they have developed. Both of these were developed more for grazing than hay. You just have to sign an agreement to send soil samples in yearly, and fertilize to specs. I was at a joint FFA and 4H meeting for all the schools last night, for Ag Day. I saw our Extension agent there, and asked him if he could find any info about blister beetles in this mix, and he said he would get back to me. So, we were talking last night about filling that place up with Brahmas, and breeding Black Hereford buils to them. My client that bought the 80 Brahmas, had about 20 calves that were by Black Herefords. Someone already paid him for the black heifers and will get them in July at weaning. He has contracted to buy every black Herf heifer the man produced next year, which is one reason he wants about 50 more Brahma cows. He will use sexed semen on them. He already has AI'ed 20 of those 80 with Black hereFord. We can sell the heifers for $250 or more than the red or brindled sell for, and those black steers will sell better too. BUT, we would be looking at buying $2500 Brahma cows vs $250 Corr cows. 10 to 1. And we'd have to vaccinate, worm, etc. And wean, then wait til they were yearlings to sell those heifers. We'd be getting $1500 to $2k each for them, but we could have gotten TEN $750 calves out of the 10 Corrs, and with no inputs. Having to rethink my own advice about NOT doing the Corr x Brangus thing with quality , improved pasture. We figured on the 400 acres, plus turning them on to the dove field after the season, we could run 300 Corrs without having to feed. $75k investment in cows, that would give us $225,000 worth of calves. We figured we could run 100 Brahmas on it, at a $250k investment, and unless we AI'd, we'd wean about 50 $750 steers and about 50 $1500 or so yearling heifers. If we did AI, there is that expense. but 100 even $2000 yearling heifers, would give us $200k out of $250k worth of cows vs $225k for the Brangus x Corr calves out of $75k worth of cows. And we'd have the AI and other inputs with those Brahmas. But, we don't know if the Corrs could wean a 500 lb calf, on that grass vs the 25% protein Kudzu. We might would have to give them protein tubs, too. So, what would [I]you[/I] do? Anybody? Y'all talk me into the Brahmas...I really want to see what we could do with them! :) and just last week, I said when I bought those 80- Brahmkas fopr Wayne I was DONE. Was gonna go fishing and take it easy after that!!! So much for that plan!! Oh yeah, and $250k would max out the amount I could get on a corporate loan without co-signing, so that would be all the trading I could do for a year without using my money;. [/QUOTE]
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