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Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:14 am
by cfpinz
Atimm693 wrote:
herofan wrote:
Atimm693 wrote:If you are routinely raking a lot of heavy windrows with it, it may plug now and then, but again, I think that's a problem with all V rakes.


I was curious if that was typical. I don’t own a v rake, but I was considering getting one. I used a neighbor’s rake this year in thick hay, and it was the most aggivating thing ever with it piling up. It was an older one, but I was wondering if this was more typical of certain brands.


Raked these a couple weeks ago. This about the limit of what the Vermeer will handle without plugging up. It's Johnson grass and fescue BTW.

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What kind of tractor is that? Gauge cluster reminds me of my father in law's McCormick.

I've got an older Vermeer with the framework behind the wheels, uses two hydraulic circuits - one for adjusting width and one for raising the wheels. I've never plugged that thing, even in 10' tall sudangrass.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:23 am
by Atimm693
cfpinz wrote:
Atimm693 wrote:
herofan wrote:
I was curious if that was typical. I don’t own a v rake, but I was considering getting one. I used a neighbor’s rake this year in thick hay, and it was the most aggivating thing ever with it piling up. It was an older one, but I was wondering if this was more typical of certain brands.


Raked these a couple weeks ago. This about the limit of what the Vermeer will handle without plugging up. It's Johnson grass and fescue BTW.

Image


What kind of tractor is that? Gauge cluster reminds me of my father in law's McCormick.

I've got an older Vermeer with the framework behind the wheels, uses two hydraulic circuits - one for adjusting width and one for raising the wheels. I've never plugged that thing, even in 10' tall sudangrass.


Valtra 8350

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:17 am
by cfpinz
Atimm693 wrote:
Valtra 8350


For curiosity's sake, where do you call home?

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:49 pm
by Silver
ddd75 wrote:i've found a lot of people turn a V rake just like the old bar rakes.. making a 180 degree turn as soon as your done with the row and going back. That turn pulls all that hay, gets caught, and balls it up.

I just run a full spiral all the way around the field.. easier on the rake, the baler, etc. never balls up.


I'm not sure I follow. I rake my outside rounds (6 swaths) and bale them. Then when I rake I lift up at the end of the row, skip two swaths, and start back the other way.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:41 pm
by Atimm693
cfpinz wrote:
Atimm693 wrote:
Valtra 8350


For curiosity's sake, where do you call home?


Missouri. I understand the confusion, with the European tractor and foreign sounding username (it's just a combination of my first and last names.)

Valtra was only sold in the US for a few years, and in 2002 Agco acquired the company (I've been told mainly for their engine manufacturing) and killed them off. It's a shame, they are fantastic tractors.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:44 pm
by Atimm693
Silver wrote:
ddd75 wrote:i've found a lot of people turn a V rake just like the old bar rakes.. making a 180 degree turn as soon as your done with the row and going back. That turn pulls all that hay, gets caught, and balls it up.

I just run a full spiral all the way around the field.. easier on the rake, the baler, etc. never balls up.


I'm not sure I follow. I rake my outside rounds (6 swaths) and bale them. Then when I rake I lift up at the end of the row, skip two swaths, and start back the other way.


I think he means that they don't pick the rake up and just let it drag when they turn around. They really don't work well at all in a sharp corner, as the inside wheels are rolling backwards.

Many times I rake a field before the baler gets there, we mow 6 passes around the outside, and then start mowing back and forth on the inside. I'll rake the 4 outside passes, do the inside of the field, and then rake the last two inside edge passes. This cleans up the left over "V"s from not having room to pick up the rake all the way when I turn around.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:14 am
by brw
I bought the Vermeer VR 1022...I have a very good dealer here, bought a 504R signature baler last year it is great.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:43 am
by cfpinz
brw wrote:I bought the Vermeer VR 1022...I have a very good dealer here, bought a 504R signature baler last year it is great.


Have you baled any high moisture hay with the 504R? Any complaints about the baler so far?

Thanks.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:47 am
by jltrent
cfpinz wrote:
brw wrote:I bought the Vermeer VR 1022...I have a very good dealer here, bought a 504R signature baler last year it is great.


Have you baled any high moisture hay with the 504R? Any complaints about the baler so far?

Thanks.
Interested in response also. A neighbor bought one last year and I looked at some of the hay baled, it looked good, but have not ask him how he likes it yet.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:51 pm
by pricefarm
jltrent wrote:
cfpinz wrote:
brw wrote:I bought the Vermeer VR 1022...I have a very good dealer here, bought a 504R signature baler last year it is great.


Have you baled any high moisture hay with the 504R? Any complaints about the baler so far?

Thanks.
Interested in response also. A neighbor bought one last year and I looked at some of the hay baled, it looked good, but have not ask him how he likes it yet.


I have looked at these as well. I really like them but don't know anyone who has one.

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:55 am
by brw
I just do dry hay...but I have baled some for a neighbor who insisted he hay was dry and ready to bale..... half the field was showing WET on monitor. I stopped and called him told him I was getting high number and wet on monitor he told me my monitor was wrong said bale it, some looked like fresh standing grass. It was fescue and Johnson grass it baled it fine....I had a 504 super I ...The 504R has cut my time to bale in half or more

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:39 am
by cfpinz
brw wrote:I just do dry hay...but I have baled some for a neighbor who insisted he hay was dry and ready to bale..... half the field was showing WET on monitor. I stopped and called him told him I was getting high number and wet on monitor he told me my monitor was wrong said bale it, some looked like fresh standing grass. It was fescue and Johnson grass it baled it fine....I had a 504 super I ...The 504R has cut my time to bale in half or more


Thanks. Have you ever plugged it?

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:03 am
by brw
Yes I plugged it last fall baling along side of a creek bank....I stopped open the gate the plug pulled through came out back ..... I cleaned off gate area and closed gate and started again slow and it baled the wet grass

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:28 am
by jltrent
Stopped at the local dealer yesterday and took a look at the new Vermeer balers. As cfpinz said a remake with singularities to a JD baler. I may send an email to Vermeer and ask why the change?

Re: wheel hay rake

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:59 am
by cfpinz
jltrent wrote:Stopped at the local dealer yesterday and took a look at the new Vermeer balers. As cfpinz said a remake with singularities to a JD baler. I may send an email to Vermeer and ask why the change?


I'll be curious how they respond.

Betting it'll have to do with simplification. I love my M, but that pickup head has a ton of moving parts - and in turn, wear items.