COOL ain't coming back

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COOL ain't coming back

Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:52 pm

https://www.beef.org/

http://www.beefusa.org/

http://www.beefusa.org/federation.aspx

From: http://policy.ncba.org/Media/Policy/Doc ... ok-feb.pdf

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, NCBA requests live cattle imported into the U.S. from another country be identified with permanent, visible identification utilizing the United States Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection
Service (USDA-APHIS) code to identify the country of origin

From: https://www.beefusa.org/newsreleases.aspx?NewsID=6551

Some of this year’s priorities are familiar to longtime industry watchers. Like last year, NCBA will work to ensure that the pending Farm Bill includes full funding for a foot-and-mouth disease vaccine bank, protects conservation programs like the Environmental Quality Incentives Program (EQIP) and prevents market-disrupting policies like mandatory Country of Origin Labeling (COOL).
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Re: COOL ain't coming back

Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:54 pm

We should push the NCBA to coordinate a CAB-like program to label US Beef as US BEEF?

http://www.beefusa.org/contactus.aspx
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Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:02 pm

From: https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/ ... Repeal.pdf

Q: Are retailers required to include any country of origin information on beef and pork
products sold at retail?
A: Retailers and their suppliers are no longer required to convey country of origin
information for beef or pork products to their buyers and/or consumers under the
mandatory COOL program. However, imported beef and pork products sold in consumer
ready packages must still bear the foreign country of origin under USDA’s Food Safety
and Inspection Service (FSIS) regulations. Country of origin information for the
remaining covered commodities must still be conveyed to buyers and consumers.

Q: Can packers or retailers voluntarily include a country of origin statement on beef and
pork products?
A: In general, packers and retailers may voluntarily provide origin information to their
consumers, as long as the information is truthful and not misleading. Packers and
retailers should work directly with FSIS for guidance and label review (as applicable).
FSIS will handle requests on a case-by-case basis.

Q. Who can we contact with questions about COOL?
A. Contact a COOL Specialist by phone at (202) 720-4486 or send an email to:
cool@ams.usda.gov.
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Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:12 pm

I called that 202 number and asked the very nice man staffing the phone if beef brought to the US as a whole carcass and processed in the US could be labeled as "US BEEF". He said there was no enforcement, or any law, preventing labeling it "US BEEF".
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Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:15 pm

Sad situation right there.
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Post by sim.-ang.king » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:18 pm

So pretty much "anything goes", just don't put a US Beef label on it.

Time for the NCBA to either start supporting US beef or to move their headquarters to another country to prevent it from getting burned to the ground.
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Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 pm

sim.-ang.king wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:18 pm
So pretty much "anything goes", just don't put a US Beef label on it.

Time for the NCBA to either start supporting US beef or to move their headquarters to another country to prevent it from getting burned to the ground.
That is why I am pushing ACA and NCBA to start a CAB-like program to label US BEEF as US BEEF.
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Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:29 pm

HDRider wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 pm
sim.-ang.king wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:18 pm
So pretty much "anything goes", just don't put a US Beef label on it.

Time for the NCBA to either start supporting US beef or to move their headquarters to another country to prevent it from getting burned to the ground.
That is why I am pushing ACA and NCBA to start a CAB-like program to label US BEEF as US BEEF.
How about if CAB can only apply to US raised beef and forget the new program? They might like that.
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Post by HDRider » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:24 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:29 pm
HDRider wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 pm
sim.-ang.king wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:18 pm
So pretty much "anything goes", just don't put a US Beef label on it.

Time for the NCBA to either start supporting US beef or to move their headquarters to another country to prevent it from getting burned to the ground.
That is why I am pushing ACA and NCBA to start a CAB-like program to label US BEEF as US BEEF.
How about if CAB can only apply to US raised beef and forget the new program? They might like that.
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Re: COOL ain't coming back

Post by Brookhill Angus » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:43 pm

I tried to talk COOL with local producers around me and they blew me off, laughed in fact.

What I don’t understand, and perhaps someone can enlighten me, is why the United States has a problem with labeling beef as born, raised, and processed in the U.S.?

I would think that if beef imports were greatly reduced and the U.S. were to rely almost fully if not completely on beef raised here at home, that it would be a huge benefit to U.S. producers.

I personally have no interest in eating Imported beef. I don’t want a Zebu burger, or a steak from Mexico. Even Canada, which I have no problems with, should not export beef to us, it’s ridiculous, when we have so many options at home.

Some might say that what I suggest is ignorant, but I stand by what I say. We have a great beef industry, why not protect it, and make sure it stays that way?

At least in my state, I feel like the powers that be, don’t really care about the survival of family farms. They care more about lobbyists money.

This video shares some of my sentiments

https://youtu.be/eC47t3T296A

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Post by sim.-ang.king » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:19 pm

I'm surprised those local producers laughed off COOL. I haven't met one actual beef producer that is not in favor of some type of labeling.
Of course you are talking about Kentucky producers...
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Post by Red Bull Breeder » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:48 am

With draw from the WTO would be a good start. Stop funding the NCBA.

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Post by True Grit Farms » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:06 am

The NCBA is against the US cattlemen. We were members and quit a couple of years ago, mainly because of COOL. A good way to deal with NCBA is to ask anyone you deal with in the cattle business if their members of NCBA. If they say yes, tell them no thanks and deal with someone else who supports US beef.
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Re: COOL ain't coming back

Post by Brookhill Angus » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:08 am

sim.-ang.king wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:19 pm
I'm surprised those local producers laughed off COOL. I haven't met one actual beef producer that is not in favor of some type of labeling.
Of course you are talking about Kentucky producers...
The Congressman for our district voted against it. That's a fact, it's on his voting record.

The locals would not believe it, even when I showed them proof.

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Post by Brookhill Angus » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:16 am

True Grit Farms wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:06 am
The NCBA is against the US cattlemen. We were members and quit a couple of years ago, mainly because of COOL. A good way to deal with NCBA is to ask anyone you deal with in the cattle business if their members of NCBA. If they say yes, tell them no thanks and deal with someone else who supports US beef.
I'm not a member of NCBA.

If CT thinks that I'm rough on Kentucky producers, you guys would really have your eyes open on how aggressive I was in approaching our Congressman for our district about COOL

He completely ignored me, even though I have a significant cattle operation in the district. Oh, that, and he ran on the platform of how much he "loved" the farmers of Kentucky. Bulls.t!

The way I see it, anyone who is anti COOL is against us in the cattle business. They give zero fu.ks if we survive or get eaten alive by cheap, low quality Brazilian beef and so on. They truly could care less.

That's my take on things. At least I have a firm opinion of where I stand.

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