well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

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well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

Postby greybeard » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:53 pm

Lost hay in last falls flood and a friend of mine offered replacement for whatever trucking cost from South of San Antonio to here turned out to be. He did tell me it would have some weeds in it, but beggars aren't too particular.
Most every place I fed or stored round bales is now covered in JG and ...............Jimson weed. I ain't worried about the JG at all , but the jimson weed is a different story. It pulls up easy and is just starting to bloom but I really don't want to handle it if I don't have to.
Anything besides glycosphate kill it?
Remedy?

You can see it mixed in with the JG.
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Re: well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:29 am

The JG is obvious but the other 3 or 4 plants on the right with a crown of three leaves looks like cocklebur. When it is young, it does look like Jimson Weed.
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I spray it with 2,4 D. I use the Tractor Supply brand by Gordons. If it is Jimson, 2,4 D kills it too. Both are sensitive to 2,4 D.
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Postby kentuckyguy » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:16 am

Looks like the cocklebur plants we get here. They seem to come up on any bare spot or area where grass is stressed.

I personally like Johnson grass. But I know many think it’s the plague.
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Postby snoopdog » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:23 am

I agree , cocklebur, hate it .
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Re: well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

Postby Bright Raven » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:28 am

snoopdog wrote:I agree , cocklebur, hate it .


The weeds I have declared war on!

1. Cocklebur
2. Poison Hemlock
3. Spinypig Weed

Other plants I campaign against:
1. Honey Locust
2. Black locust
3. Multiflora Rose
4. Ironweed
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Postby jltrent » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:39 am

snoopdog wrote:I agree , cocklebur, hate it .
I had a field with some of that on it as it does look like it from your picture. Once the grass thickened up, pretty much choked it out. When I turned the cattle in for late fall grazing they would have cockleburs all over them. I bet it was uncomfortable as the bull would have it all around his thing.
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Postby ClinchValley » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:45 am

I pull or chop every cocklebur i get near.

I HATE THEM.
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Postby JMJ Farms » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:49 pm

Not familiar with Jimson. MSMA will kill Johnson grass. I’d imagine it would kill Jimson if not I’d just tank mix with MSMA and you’d have it covered.
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Postby Chocolate Cow2 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:02 pm

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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:02 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
snoopdog wrote:I agree , cocklebur, hate it .


The weeds I have declared war on!

1. Cocklebur
2. Poison Hemlock
3. Spinypig Weed

Other plants I campaign against:
1. Honey Locust
2. Black locust
3. Multiflora Rose
4. Ironweed


No Thistles?? They are my arch enemy - burdock 2nd. Well, along the road, I am adamant on killing Hogwart Weed. We don't have the Giant Hogwart, but I am careful with the one we do have. It spreads like wildfire.
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Re: well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

Postby snoopdog » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:22 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
snoopdog wrote:I agree , cocklebur, hate it .


The weeds I have declared war on!

1. Cocklebur
2. Poison Hemlock
3. Spinypig Weed

Other plants I campaign against:
1. Honey Locust
2. Black locust
3. Multiflora Rose
4. Ironweed


No Thistles?? They are my arch enemy - burdock 2nd. Well, along the road, I am adamant on killing Hogwart Weed. We don't have the Giant Hogwart, but I am careful with the one we do have. It spreads like wildfire.
Thistles are no1, cocklebur no.2 on the hate list.
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Postby Bright Raven » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:27 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
snoopdog wrote:I agree , cocklebur, hate it .


The weeds I have declared war on!

1. Cocklebur
2. Poison Hemlock
3. Spinypig Weed

Other plants I campaign against:
1. Honey Locust
2. Black locust
3. Multiflora Rose
4. Ironweed


No Thistles?? They are my arch enemy - burdock 2nd. Well, along the road, I am adamant on killing Hogwart Weed. We don't have the Giant Hogwart, but I am careful with the one we do have. It spreads like wildfire.


I forgot Thistles. They are between cocklebur and spiny pig weed.
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Re: well, my almost-free-hay turned out to be a problem..

Postby bball » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:49 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
The weeds I have declared war on!

1. Cocklebur
2. Poison Hemlock
3. Spinypig Weed

Other plants I campaign against:
1. Honey Locust
2. Black locust
3. Multiflora Rose
4. Ironweed


No Thistles?? They are my arch enemy - burdock 2nd. Well, along the road, I am adamant on killing Hogwart Weed. We don't have the Giant Hogwart, but I am careful with the one we do have. It spreads like wildfire.


I forgot Thistles. They are between cocklebur and spiny pig weed.


What are you using to kill the spiny pigweed? My sacrifice area is inundated. Crossbow just stunned it. Maybe i need to mix stronger..
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Postby Bright Raven » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:55 pm

bball wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
No Thistles?? They are my arch enemy - burdock 2nd. Well, along the road, I am adamant on killing Hogwart Weed. We don't have the Giant Hogwart, but I am careful with the one we do have. It spreads like wildfire.


I forgot Thistles. They are between cocklebur and spiny pig weed.


What are you using to kill the spiny pigweed? My sacrifice area is inundated. Crossbow just stunned it. Maybe i need to mix stronger..


Gordon's LV 400 2,4 D kills it. I use it at the mix of 1.28 ounces per gallon.
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Postby bball » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:51 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
bball wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
I forgot Thistles. They are between cocklebur and spiny pig weed.


What are you using to kill the spiny pigweed? My sacrifice area is inundated. Crossbow just stunned it. Maybe i need to mix stronger..


Gordon's LV 400 2,4 D kills it. I use it at the mix of 1.28 ounces per gallon.


Did some investigating. May try chaparral. Supposed to help with seed bank also. Thanks for the lead.
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