Hay Shortage

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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:25 am

We finally got some rain last night. About .8" after many weeks without. This land is designed to be watered every 3-5 days. My pond is at least 4-5' low. Been worried about moving cows each time, thinking the rotated out ones were not coming back. Hopefully, with this heat & water, they will really kick in. AND, hopefully, our 2nd cutting will kick in. Has grown - fields are green, but not much there for cutting.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Hook2.0 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:54 pm

This area has seen too much rain early on and everyone lost a cutting. Just got 2 semis worth delivered because hay is,goi g to be in short supply by the end of winter.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:04 pm

Jeanne- our pond is EMPTY! We are dry, too dry. No one has hay, and unless I truck it from another state, I will not get any. We are praying for some much needed moisture to get some grass, and I am looking at cutting numbers hard and finding hay. The last quote I got was $250 a ton delivered.... I can not feed my beef cows and expect to break even at that. Sad state of affairs out here....
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby 1982vett » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:20 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:We finally got some rain last night. About .8" after many weeks without. This land is designed to be watered every 3-5 days. My pond is at least 4-5' low. Been worried about moving cows each time, thinking the rotated out ones were not coming back. Hopefully, with this heat & water, they will really kick in. AND, hopefully, our 2nd cutting will kick in. Has grown - fields are green, but not much there for cutting.

You know, I’ve pretty much stopped the rotational grazing, especially in the summer because the risk of problems with stressed grasses.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:35 pm

Chris - sorry to hear that. We are dry enough to make me a little anxious, but grass keeps growing "enough" - so far.
I just looked at a drought report. Lot of you guys/gals are really getting stressed. Hope things turn around.
I remember when we lived in Kansas, we would hay our mostly Brome grass fields in early July, and they would turn brown and never come back until fall.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Texasmark » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:38 am

rollinhills wrote:I thought we may be short but the 15ac of crabgrass and 8ac of sundangrass that we just baled yesterday made 85 5x5 bales, the biggest problem I had the last little while is keeping the baler running.


Question on your Crabgrass. I have some equipment sitting around and earlier in the year I sprayed it with 24d-Glyphosate. It disappeared. Then on comes Crabgrass and some noxious weeds and they are jut going nuts in this hot, dry, weather and clay soil. Foilage is good and thick, thick enough to make hay when nothing else wants to and enough to be worth your time.

Giving me some ideas about maybe I'll add some seed to my bovine hay patch. What likes it?

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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby backhoeboogie » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:20 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:If it continues like this over a large part of the nation, there is going to be a hay shortage that is going to put some heavy pressure on many producers.


It’s short here as well very short.
We should be on third cutting and most have only gotten one.


Pastures are brown here. Dead. Trees are dying. Cactus is turning yellow. The hay panic has started.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby rollinhills » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:56 am

Texasmark wrote:
rollinhills wrote:I thought we may be short but the 15ac of crabgrass and 8ac of sundangrass that we just baled yesterday made 85 5x5 bales, the biggest problem I had the last little while is keeping the baler running.


Question on your Crabgrass. I have some equipment sitting around and earlier in the year I sprayed it with 24d-Glyphosate. It disappeared. Then on comes Crabgrass and some noxious weeds and they are jut going nuts in this hot, dry, weather and clay soil. Foilage is good and thick, thick enough to make hay when nothing else wants to and enough to be worth your time.

Giving me some ideas about maybe I'll add some seed to my bovine hay patch. What likes it?

Thanks,
Mark



I’ve had real good luck with it, this is the third year with on the 18ac I sowed it on, let it go to seed and it will be back next year. My cattle eat the fire out of it, I tested it last year I think it was about 14% protein and the tdn was real good. Mine is Red River.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby Caustic Burno » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:11 am

backhoeboogie wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:If it continues like this over a large part of the nation, there is going to be a hay shortage that is going to put some heavy pressure on many producers.


It’s short here as well very short.
We should be on third cutting and most have only gotten one.


Pastures are brown here. Dead. Trees are dying. Cactus is turning yellow. The hay panic has started.


Pretty poor here is an acre unfertilized.
Wished I had fertilized it now, night time temps wouldn’t cooperate and then it turned dry. There is 8 4x5’s in the pic there is a one more I couldn’t get the angle right on this iPhone pic. No telling how poor the protein.


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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby 5S Cattle » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:40 pm

backhoeboogie wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:If it continues like this over a large part of the nation, there is going to be a hay shortage that is going to put some heavy pressure on many producers.


It’s short here as well very short.
We should be on third cutting and most have only gotten one.


Pastures are brown here. Dead. Trees are dying. Cactus is turning yellow. The hay panic has started.

Where at in Texas?
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby snoopdog » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:16 am

We got 1.5 inches day before yesterday on the pastures and 1/2in on the hayfield . We'll get a second cutting , probably late, more worried about the pastures and pond. We're pushing our stocking rate right now , trying to hold on . The drought from last year has just never left .
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby ddd75 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:22 am

calling for rain everyday from Fri - Fri here.. we'll see.. i need it!
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby backhoeboogie » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:36 pm

5S Cattle wrote:
backhoeboogie wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
It’s short here as well very short.
We should be on third cutting and most have only gotten one.


Pastures are brown here. Dead. Trees are dying. Cactus is turning yellow. The hay panic has started.

Where at in Texas?


Hood County. We were in Crowley and Burleson a few weeks back and it was still green there. Meridian just got 4 inches of rain. My daughter's places west of here have had rain. We're simply in the middle of the hole.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby slick4591 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:13 pm

Spoke with my hay guy just a bit ago and he said the aphids were already starting to hit the Sudan. He's rolled around 700 bales of Sudan and mixed Johnson and is not selling outside of his regulars just yet. He's had my order since April so he should be dropping mine off once he starts moving it all. Seems he doesn't have hope for much of a second cutting at this point.
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Re: Hay Shortage

Postby callmefence » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:17 pm

No chance of second cutting here. Sudan is burning up and full of aphids. Opened the gates and let the cows on it.
Their tickled to have something with some green in it.
I bought 50 5 by 5 of old coastal for 2500.00 and was proud to get it. Can get good hay trucked in for 160 a ton. That's to dam much... I got a line on some Milo hay that's what I'm going to do this year. Fed it during the drought and with a little cottonseed it's just fine.
Maybe we'll have a good year for oats.

If not no biggie. It ain't like we haven't lost money on cattle before.
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