Hayfield Grass ID

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by sim.-ang.king » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:59 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
sim.-ang.king wrote:Now that I look at on my computer, it actually looks more like Foxtail, with those purple blotches, let it head out and find out.

Also FYI 2-4d will kill crabgrass, and is quite effective against it at higher rates.


That's interesting. Why would it be effective on a "grass" type plant? Not arguing - wanting to learn because that is totally opposite from what I "knew". It is safe to use around corn because it is considered a grass.

2-4d won't kill most grass, but it does affect all plants. It can kill young grass sprouts, and can de-flower grasses while in bloom, and even kill some grasses. Crabgrass and nutsedge are the least resistant grasses to 2-4d. Spraying 2 pints of 2-4d, or 1 pint dicamba, sprayed on crabgrass before it matures, or before tillering works better, will kill most varieties of crabgrass. Some varieties are more resistant to it than others. It's a common miss conception that 2-4d doesn't not harm all grasses in any way. Being resistant to a herbicide does not mean that the herbicide doesn't affect the plant still. Even round-up can kill round-up beans, or set them back, if sprayed at the wrong time, or at a high rate.


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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by BobbyLummus1 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:56 pm

I too have this in one pasture . 75% this and 25% fescue . Spray 2-4D evry year . My neighbor thinks its bahia . Im know nothing about bahia . Whatever it is its def a summer grass

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by Caustic Burno » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:08 pm

jwimberly wrote:Burno I'm having trouble finding good info on wild rice. Is it the same as jungle rice?


Looks similar like what some call barn yard grass. The wild rice is more prolific here. Came in from the west coast where most of our seed is produced.
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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by Caustic Burno » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:07 pm

BobbyLummus1 wrote:I too have this in one pasture . 75% this and 25% fescue . Spray 2-4D evry year . My neighbor thinks its bahia . Im know nothing about bahia . Whatever it is its def a summer grass


It’s not Bahia as that is the forage of East Texas.
I have Argentine,Pensacola and Paraguay bahias.
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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by oscarsteve » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:21 pm

Definitely not bahia or crabgrass. At first I thought it might be johnsongrass also. But something about it, at least in these pictures, didn't seem to let me make that match definitively. Not trying to be rude, but I assumed everyone in the southeast that does any kind of farming knows what johnsongrass looks like since it is so prolific here, especially in hay fields. My guess is that it is foxtail millet. But the seed head you pictured doesn't match that either. The seed head matches more closely with johnsongrass than foxtail. So evidently, I'm no help at all. :D

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by Texasmark » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:49 pm

Okaye, send a good sample of grass, seed heads, and a clump of undisturbed roots to your state A&M U. If they won't accommodate you send it ti TAMU Ag, Extension service, in Overton, Tx.

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by greybeard » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:21 pm

jwimberly wrote:Image

Well I guess I told y'all wrong. Looks like it does have a seed head after a second look.

Looks like one of the sprangletops but dunno which one. The long flagleaf sticking up over the seedhead is a clue tho. I have a slow connection today and couldn't get this to load but it's usually pretty accurate.
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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by Dcantrell » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:32 pm

I hope you don't mind me commenting, but I have been researching this too. Look up Redtop and see what you think.

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by jwimberly » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:51 pm

Dogs and Cows wrote:CB...I think you may be right...looked at a picture on google and very similar...even with the purple tips of the leaves...anyone else think this may be it? Also, I think this grass likes to grow in wetter soils...areas that don't drain very well...is that what you are seeing jwimberly?

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Definitely a wet soil until the miserable July/August days dries it up real well. What gets me is the seed head looks just like a sorghum/johnson grass but doesn't get anywhere near as tall. I'll snap some better pics in a few weeks before my next cutting. Maybe it'll be easier to ID then.

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by greybeard » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:58 pm

I thought Redtop had little skinny narrow leaves...
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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by BRYANT » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:44 pm

what does dallisgrass look like
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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:08 pm

BRYANT wrote:what does dallisgrass look like



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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by M.Magis » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:38 am

Dcantrell wrote:I hope you don't mind me commenting, but I have been researching this too. Look up Redtop and see what you think.

That was my second thought, right after JG. Seedhead looks right, but I'm not used to seeing it with such large leaves. If it is, it'll be evident soon enough when the tops turn purple.

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by ddd75 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:42 am

i have it here as well.. i always thought it was just some native grass

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Re: Hayfield Grass ID

Post by Texasmark » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:40 am

BRYANT wrote:what does dallisgrass look like


I guarantee you that no way is this Dallis. First off Dallis is a clump grass. Second the stems with seed pods emanate long before there is much leaf....with this much leaf, you would be blinded by the stems and seed pods.

The seed pods are different, all the seeds are jammed together on a side stem of the main stems (note plural on stems) and they have a black gooey underside whereby the individual round, tightly packet (on the stem) seeds easily separate onto the host object. This allows them to be transported to a new location and deposited to start a new Dallis clump grass colony.

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