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hard pull

Postby zirlottkim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:11 pm

Had to pull a massive calf out of a heifer earlier. Hard pull on heifer and calf. Flooding rain here and I have no idea how long she was in labor. When I found heifer, calfs tongue was extremely swollen and I figured calf was dead. It's alive and up trying but tongue and jaws too swollen to eat. I went ahead and tubed it. Wondering how long for tongue swelling to subside?
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Re: hard pull

Postby M-5 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:45 pm

Couple of days . Should be much better tomorrow.
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Re: hard pull

Postby zirlottkim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:49 pm

M-5 wrote:Couple of days . Should be much better tomorrow.

Thats what Im hoping.
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Re: hard pull

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 pm

Try some banamine on the calf if you have it. It will help with the swelling.
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Re: hard pull

Postby farmerjan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:22 pm

Usually see great improvement 24-48 hours. Banamine might help. Hopefully the calf will keep trying to suck even if weak; the more physical activity the faster the swelling will go down. Even if you have to tube it again to make sure it is getting fluids, movement of the tongue as in sucking reflex will help to move the fluid/swelling out of the tongue etc.
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Re: hard pull

Postby Silver » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Won't be long. I would give both cow and calf Metacam.
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Re: hard pull

Postby TN Cattle Man » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:07 pm

Fire Sweep Ranch wrote:Try some banamine on the calf if you have it. It will help with the swelling.

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Re: hard pull

Postby mpassmore85 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:52 pm

Silver wrote:Won't be long. I would give both cow and calf Metacam.



Meta cam would be by fast best that is what it’s designed for
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Re: hard pull

Postby TCRanch » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:24 am

In addition to Banamine, I usually give a shot of Vitamin B Complex for energy and Nursemate ASAP.
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Re: hard pull

Postby Lucky_P » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:41 pm

This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.
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Re: hard pull

Postby angus9259 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:11 pm

Lucky_P wrote:This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.


Here we go with the science again....
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Re: hard pull

Postby ALACOWMAN » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:18 pm

angus9259 wrote:
Lucky_P wrote:This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.


Here we go with the science again....

And we're fortunate enough to have this one....
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Re: hard pull

Postby ez14. » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:32 pm

angus9259 wrote:
Lucky_P wrote:This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.


Here we go with the science again....
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Re: hard pull

Postby True Grit Farms » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:19 pm

Lucky_P wrote:This is a case of swelling/edema due to compromised venous return (being stuck in the vaginal canal for a protracted period), not due to an inflammatory process.
Anti-inflammatories, like Banamine or Metacam are not indicated. While they won't likely 'hurt' anything, they won't do anything to speed up resolution of the swelling.
Just because you have something in a syringe, doesn't mean that you should necessarily give it.

You sound like our vet Lucky, you must not work for the drug companies.
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Re: hard pull

Postby ALACOWMAN » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:33 pm

Those drug companies can be a vets worst enemy...changed a little since the antibiotic restrictions..but they ain't their friend..
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