Vet says cows open ? Advice

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Caustic Burno » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:32 pm

What size bales?


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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Lrj505 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:33 pm

60 pound 2 string

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Caustic Burno » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

So he traded you 4 young cows for four tons of feed?
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Lrj505 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:37 pm

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Caustic Burno » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:45 pm

That comes to 300 froghides a cow in this neck of the woods.
He could have gotten 12 tons of Hay here for that price along with a feather.
Your either an excellent horse trader or the other fellow failed the IQ test for the day.
Cause he could have sold those cows all day long at bottom of the barrel price for 6 bills in reality they would have fetched closer to 7 and put folding money in his pocket after he bought hay.
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Stocker Steve » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:51 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
Workinonit Farm wrote:If you p11 hundred for the bunch, that's certainly cheap enough.

There is No Way anyone bought 4 healthy 1100+ lb cows for only $1,100.....that's only $275 head.


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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Workinonit Farm » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:54 pm

Lrj505 wrote:No 4 cows for $1100. Actually trades 140 bales of alfalfa For all not each


Thank you for clearing that up. I thought that was what you meant...…… 11 hundred for the bunch, not each.
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by BRYANT » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:43 pm

Lrj505 wrote:Recently picked up 4 Herefords (3 year olds) from a guy I know for $1,100. He said the vet preg checked them and they were open. I figured for the price I could wait on my return. I put them in with my black angus bull. He definitely bred one I saw it with my own eyes. He hasn’t even looked at the cows. They were a little thin. My question is. Could the vet have missed an early pregnancy ? I don’t have any vets close that preg check. Or could they just need some more weight? They all had calf’s last year. Thanks. I was thinking of taking them away from the bull and putting them in a foot tall grass pasture I have for a couple months and then putting them back.

I bought 5 young, open, wet bags, a few months ago for not very much money. turned them out with the bull and 2 weeks later one of the 4 yr. olds came up with a calf. and one looks like another one maybe springing now .
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:26 am

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Too thin to expect successful conception as is the one previously shown being bred.
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Katpau » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:05 am

Where are you located?
This does not make sense to me. 140 bales at 60 pounds each comes to 8,400 pounds or 4.2 tons. You valued that at $1100 which comes to $262 per ton and $7.85 per 60 pound bale. Hay in my area is expensive because most of it is shipped in over the mountain, but I still don't pay $262 per ton for even decent quality alfalfa delivered and put up in my barn. Grass sells for $115 to $175 depending on quality and quantity. The average 60 pound bale grown here brings about $4 to $4.50 if you pick up. That would be $133 to $150 per ton.

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:35 am

Katpau wrote:Where are you located?
This does not make sense to me. 140 bales at 60 pounds each comes to 8,400 pounds or 4.2 tons. You valued that at $1100 which comes to $262 per ton and $7.85 per 60 pound bale. Hay in my area is expensive because most of it is shipped in over the mountain, but I still don't pay $262 per ton for even decent quality alfalfa delivered and put up in my barn. Grass sells for $115 to $175 depending on quality and quantity. The average 60 pound bale grown here brings about $4 to $4.50 if you pick up. That would be $133 to $150 per ton.


I am with you as the guy virtually gave away those cows. I will buy them all day at that price and never unload them till I get to the salebarn.
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by TCRanch » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:51 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Katpau wrote:Where are you located?
This does not make sense to me. 140 bales at 60 pounds each comes to 8,400 pounds or 4.2 tons. You valued that at $1100 which comes to $262 per ton and $7.85 per 60 pound bale. Hay in my area is expensive because most of it is shipped in over the mountain, but I still don't pay $262 per ton for even decent quality alfalfa delivered and put up in my barn. Grass sells for $115 to $175 depending on quality and quantity. The average 60 pound bale grown here brings about $4 to $4.50 if you pick up. That would be $133 to $150 per ton.


I am with you as the guy virtually gave away those cows. I will buy them all day at that price and never unload them till I get to the salebarn.


If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. There's gotta be a reason the seller is essentially giving away these cows. Unless he's a contender for this year's Darwin Awards.

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Farm Fence Solutions » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:03 pm

Get wheels under them, and head for the yards to collect your profit! Instead of blowing one more dollar on feed, take the cash option and reinvest in boat gas and a box of beer.
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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by MtnCows93 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:34 pm

id say the seller thought they were open so he sold them dirt cheap, id try and put some weight on those cows and try and get them bred, if it works out youll save money not having to sell and rebuy which is another gamble, if they still wont breed you will still get more for them at the sale because they will be fatter and heavier, its a win win

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Re: Vet says cows open ? Advice

Post by Lrj505 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:13 pm

Located south of Albuquerque. We have the worst drought in 31 years. Just about everything at sale barn is skinny. Bred young cows are going for about $6-700. Young pairs around $750-$800. Old bred $500-$600. Only problem around here Herefords aren’t good sellers.

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