Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by kenny thomas » Fri May 03, 2019 8:50 pm

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If I was going to try and put some weight on the calves by creep feeding I’d want feed to be 10 cents a pound or less. That’s probably not going to happen these days. I think at 10-14 cents a pound it’s worth doing for 3-4 weeks before weaning to get their belly ready to start gaining on feed. I’ve only been weaning calves for 5-6 years now but have learned that anything done early helps them gain weight faster. Castrating and dehorning at weaning seems to set them back at least 30-45 days. That combined with ramping up the feed to let their rumen accept it and convert to pounds all cost you money. I’m going to try the creep again this year and keep up with it better now that I have a set of scales.
If castrating and dehorning sets them back that much why not do it when they are born and add 1 implant and your back to the growth of a bull calf.


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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Lucky » Fri May 03, 2019 9:29 pm

I always do my best to castrate and dehorn at 30-90 days but it always seems there’s a few stragglers born after we the spring working. It’s mainly just a scheduling thing. I think I had 5 born this year after we worked the cows. So a few of them will get cut late. I’ve just about eliminated the horns so hopefully it won’t be an issue anymore. I haven’t ventured into implanting yet but have looked into it.

On another note just to make sure we are on the same page are we calling creep feeding the feed they get while still on the mommas before weaning? After weaning they are hand fed correct?

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:12 am

Yes, on your definition of creep feeding.
JMJ - I would love to have seen that hog episode!!
Backtrack a little on the heifer getting fat in the udder. Fat in the udder is a "real" problem - but - just to clarify, it does not affect them AFTER they are bred. In my mind, no heifer should be fed enough to get fat in her udder, no matter what age.
I didn't read the article in the beginning of this thread, but NEFarmwife dug into the article and they said they creed fed from 7-15 to 11-1 - then weaned early December.
Question - would that be counter-productive?? Creep feed about 100 days, then quit 30+ days before weaning? Seems like that's backwards. You are getting their bugs established on a grain diet, then no grain, then back to a weaned grain diet?? Unless, they never went back to a grain diet.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Nuakerprel » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:47 am

What is creep feeding?

We just picked up a jersay bottle calf yesterday.

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:55 pm

Creep feeding is providing feed just for the calves while they are still nursing their dam.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:06 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
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Creep feeding is providing feed just for the calves while they are still nursing their dam.
He’s a banned troll Jeanne. He won’t be bothering us anymore...

under that name at least.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Double R Ranch » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Creep feeding our calves is paying off big time this year. This is our first year trying it. We are on very dry, shorter pasture at this point. Normally we’re looking to wean soon due to condition of the older cows. The older cows are maintaining better and so far calves are reaching weights we sold at last year in November. Same cows and same sire as last year. Only change is the creep feeder. We’re using a local milling that is a beef mix ration in the creep feeder. So far it’s working well for us.

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:02 pm

Double R Ranch wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:35 pm
Creep feeding our calves is paying off big time this year. This is our first year trying it. We are on very dry, shorter pasture at this point. Normally we’re looking to wean soon due to condition of the older cows. The older cows are maintaining better and so far calves are reaching weights we sold at last year in November. Same cows and same sire as last year. Only change is the creep feeder. We’re using a local milling that is a beef mix ration in the creep feeder. So far it’s working well for us.
Congrats Double R, good reading you again, it's been a long time.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Double R Ranch » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:24 pm

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Congrats Double R, good reading you again, it's been a long time.
Thanks! Hope this finds you and the family well!

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:28 pm

Double R Ranch wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:24 pm
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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Congrats Double R, good reading you again, it's been a long time.
Thanks! Hope this finds you and the family well!
Yes indeed, thank you.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Stocker Steve » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:03 pm

I have herd of very good creep feed conversion when calves are on short pasture.

What is the value of additional gain in your market?
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Double R Ranch » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:21 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:03 pm
I have herd of very good creep feed conversion when calves are on short pasture.

What is the value of additional gain in your market?
For me the additional gain means sell “earlier” since our target market is 700-750#’s. Means less draw on my cows which in turn means they recoup faster. Less forage usage by selling sooner. I can calve at a better time for us weather wise and get those calves off the pasture quicker which is allowing me to keep a few more cows.
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by 5S Cattle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:04 pm

What’s the nutritional analysis on your creep you’re having made Double R?

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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by Double R Ranch » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:08 pm

5S Cattle wrote:
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What’s the nutritional analysis on your creep you’re having made Double R?
Crude Protein Crude Fat Crude Fiber Ash
Calcium Phosphorus
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS Minimum 14.0%
Minimum 3.0% Maximum 18.0% Maximum 9.0% Maximum 0.9% Minimum 0.4%
Zinpro 4 Plex C -.35g per lb. Zinpro 120 - .09g per lb
*Not necessary to add additional vitamins/minerals to this feed
INGREDIENTS:
Alfalfa Hay, Distillers Dried Grains, Almond Hulls, Soybean Meal, Rice Bran, Mix Grain Hay, Cane Molasses, Salt, Ground Limestone, Dicalcium Phosphate, Mono- calcium Phosphate, Zinc Methionine Complex, Magnesium Oxide, Manganese Methionine Complex, Glycerin, Manganous Sulfate, Copper Lysine Complex, Cobalt Glucoheptonate, Soybean Oil, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Ethylene Diamine Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite.
Ruminant Meat & Bone Meal Free
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Re: Anyone Creep Feeding Calves?

Post by 5S Cattle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 pm

Thank you

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