Cow calf vs steer operation?

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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:55 pm

I have 15 cows and bought 3 steers and a bull. I think I could handle 25 cows. Cows now in my area are running about $600 solid mouth 3rd stage pregnant at auction due to drought . Pairs about $800
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Did I read that correctly, 25 mother cows on 13 acres and you can cut 60 tons of alfalfa? I’d save my money and buy 39 more just like it to run 100 cows. Then you might make a little for your time.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:41 pm

Alfalfa is about 9 tons a year per acre. Buy 39 what ?
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:18 pm

Lrj505 wrote:Alfalfa is about 9 tons a year per acre. Buy 39 what ?


39 more acres.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:57 pm

Good point I could buy half an acre a year With 60 tons of alfalfa
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby ddd75 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:50 am

Lrj505 wrote:Alfalfa is about 9 tons a year per acre. Buy 39 what ?


you said 60 tons.. from 10 acre..

now 9 tons = 90 tons.

plus cattle on it?


Where are you located?
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:58 am

Sounds like he might be from LaLa Land but if this is for real I’m all ears. I’m running 1-5 if I could change it to 1-1/2 and cut 6-9 tons of alfalfa to the acre that’d be great.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:07 am

Clarification. I have 6 acres of alfalfa that’s mine =about 60 tons a year max. 10 acres of dormant alfalfa grass that’s my dads that he lets me use in the winter. The 3 acres of pasture a friend let’s me use as long as I keep it up for him. On the 10 acres 8-10 cows max for 3 months by then they clean it up and need to be fed. I also have one acre of piper Sudan that is about 12 tons a year.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:31 pm

Lrj505 wrote:Clarification. I have 6 acres of alfalfa that’s mine =about 60 tons a year max. 10 acres of dormant alfalfa grass that’s my dads that he lets me use in the winter. The 3 acres of pasture a friend let’s me use as long as I keep it up for him. On the 10 acres 8-10 cows max for 3 months by then they clean it up and need to be fed. I also have one acre of piper Sudan that is about 12 tons a year.


You can’t make money feeding cows 9 months a year. I suggest you run 1 cow/ calf pair. Or run about 5 yearlings for 4-5 months and sell the hay.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:39 pm

I am really thinking steers are more money. But don’t know how to do it ? Some say buy at 300 cwt or they won’t grow? today’s price is #200-400 $225 cwt. Buy when? And sell when? I would definitely sell everything and start over. Buy spring sell fall? Buy fall sell spring ? Buy at what weight and sell at what weight? I could feed a lot of steers. Last year I made about $500 profit a steer , but that’s not including time and effort.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:13 pm

Buy steers that are 60 days weaned weighing 550-600#’s and buy good black hided ones. You need to buy them when your grass starts growing and sell them when it stops. If the grass is as good as you say they should weigh 775 or so in 90-100 days. Sell the alfalfa unless you want to feed steers through the winter.
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby ddd75 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:47 am

so where are you located?
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:12 am

Located Bosque Farms NM south of Albuquerque
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lucky » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:14 am

I read another post you started about your cows not breeding up. I suggest you do some reading on beef cattle reproduction, beef cattle forage requirements, and look up the stocker price history in your area. have you ever had your alfalfa tested?
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Re: Cow calf vs steer operation?

Postby Lrj505 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:27 am

I think I need to sell everything and buy better cows
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