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Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:57 am
by Cross-7
Dallas Keuchel vs Clayton Kershaw

I'd be tempted to throw someone else against Kershaw and save Keuchel.

Should be a good series but the Dodgers have out spent the Astros, so on paper it looks like the Dodgers are favored

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:19 pm
by Cross-7
No one wants to discuss strategy?

Kershaw when healthy is unhittable, but he hasn't been healthy.
Keuchel was on the DL and year, but seems healthy.
It's a gamble.
Kershaw beats you and you've spent your ace.
Verlander wins you're 1-1 but if he implodes your down 2-0.

I'd throw someone else, then Verlander, then Kurchel and hope I'm up 2-1


Thoughts ?

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:41 pm
by TexasBred
Cross-7 wrote:No one wants to discuss strategy?

Kershaw when healthy is unhittable, but he hasn't been healthy.
Keuchel was on the DL and year, but seems healthy.
It's a gamble.
Kershaw beats you and you've spent your ace.
Verlander wins you're 1-1 but if he implodes your down 2-0.

I'd throw someone else, then Verlander, then Kurchel and hope I'm up 2-1


Thoughts ?

Strategy?? Outscore the other team. Plain and simply. Put your best on the field at all times. Too dam much strategy in sports now and most of it fails. Like the Astros but am a lifelong Dodger fan. Dodgers will win.

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:14 pm
by Cross-7
TexasBred wrote:
Cross-7 wrote:No one wants to discuss strategy?

Kershaw when healthy is unhittable, but he hasn't been healthy.
Keuchel was on the DL and year, but seems healthy.
It's a gamble.
Kershaw beats you and you've spent your ace.
Verlander wins you're 1-1 but if he implodes your down 2-0.

I'd throw someone else, then Verlander, then Kurchel and hope I'm up 2-1


Thoughts ?

Strategy?? Outscore the other team. Plain and simply. Put your best on the field at all times. Too dam much strategy in sports now and most of it fails. Like the Astros but am a lifelong Dodger fan. Dodgers will win.



That's another thought
Best vs best .
Kershaw gives up 3 and your sitting on Keuchel and your SP gives up 5
You could have been up 1-0.

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:44 pm
by greybeard
There's always been strategy in baseball..this is not something new.
Play deep or play for the double play shallower?
Bunt or swing away?
Pitch to the 20 HR hitter or walk him?
Get the easy out or try to get the play at the plate?
Pull the all star pitcher that just let 2 runs score or wait and see if he settles down?
DH or regular rotation?
Concentrate on the next pitch or try to pick the leadoff at first base?
Take the catcher's sign or shake it off?

Other sports are mostly just raw muscle, skill, and brawn. It's why I still like baseball...it's a thinking athlete's sport and always has been. I was never good at it, but I love it.

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:10 am
by Rafter S
greybeard wrote:There's always been strategy in baseball..this is not something new.
Play deep or play for the double play shallower?
Bunt or swing away?
Pitch to the 20 HR hitter or walk him?
Get the easy out or try to get the play at the plate?
Pull the all star pitcher that just let 2 runs score or wait and see if he settles down?
DH or regular rotation?
Concentrate on the next pitch or try to pick the leadoff at first base?
Take the catcher's sign or shake it off?

Other sports are mostly just raw muscle, skill, and brawn. It's why I still like baseball...it's a thinking athlete's sport and always has been. I was never good at it, but I love it.


Speaking of that choice, how'd you like that play when Bregman threw to home in game 7 against the Yankees?

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:12 am
by Cross-7
The Dodgers could give Kershaw extra rest by using him in Games 2 and 6, but they'd have more flexibility in how they'd use him over the rest of the series by giving him the ball in Game 1. It's doubtful that they'll try pitching in Game 4 on three days' rest, but using him in Game 5 would allow him to potentially pitch in relief in Game 7. Roberts didn't talk about the rest of the rotation, but it seems likely that Yu Darvish will pitch in Game 2, followed by Rich Hill and Alex Wood.


I still think I'd use Kuechel in game two and Verlander in game three.
If it goes seven then you can use them again in six and seven

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:00 pm
by TexasBred
greybeard wrote:There's always been strategy in baseball..this is not something new.
Play deep or play for the double play shallower?
Bunt or swing away?
Pitch to the 20 HR hitter or walk him?
Get the easy out or try to get the play at the plate?
Pull the all star pitcher that just let 2 runs score or wait and see if he settles down?
DH or regular rotation?
Concentrate on the next pitch or try to pick the leadoff at first base?
Take the catcher's sign or shake it off?

Other sports are mostly just raw muscle, skill, and brawn. It's why I still like baseball...it's a thinking athlete's sport and always has been. I was never good at it, but I love it.

Then those thinkers stand there and take three down the chute and never take the bat off their shoulder because it just was not their pitch....oh and in the wrong location. :lol2: BTW much more thinking and strategy n football too than many think. Most are too busy blaming everything on the refs. :lol2:

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:24 pm
by Cross-7
TexasBred wrote:
greybeard wrote:There's always been strategy in baseball..this is not something new.
Play deep or play for the double play shallower?
Bunt or swing away?
Pitch to the 20 HR hitter or walk him?
Get the easy out or try to get the play at the plate?
Pull the all star pitcher that just let 2 runs score or wait and see if he settles down?
DH or regular rotation?
Concentrate on the next pitch or try to pick the leadoff at first base?
Take the catcher's sign or shake it off?

Other sports are mostly just raw muscle, skill, and brawn. It's why I still like baseball...it's a thinking athlete's sport and always has been. I was never good at it, but I love it.

Then those thinkers stand there and take three down the chute and never take the bat off their shoulder because it just was not their pitch....oh and in the wrong location. :lol2: BTW much more thinking and strategy n football too than many think. Most are too busy blaming everything on the refs. :lol2:



I with you on that. Sure big armed QB's like Favre got away with things that other guys with a lesser arm couldn't, but look at Peyton Manning and Tom Brady type guys.
Their ability to read defenses and go through their progressions.
They disguise the those defensive packages so well and put players in motion to try and confuse the QB.
Is there a blitz coming off the corner, LB, saftey ??? Or are they dropping back in coverage?
They play man coverage and switch to zone or a combination of both with a rover. Is the safety over the top ? Where the single coverage?
All in about 5 secs while 300# men are breathing down your neck.

But I still say I wouldn't go toe to toe with Kershaw with my ace
Unless hes still not 100% healthy.
But he's had rest and may be feeling good,

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:48 pm
by Rafter S
greybeard wrote:There's always been strategy in baseball..this is not something new.
Play deep or play for the double play shallower?
Bunt or swing away?
Pitch to the 20 HR hitter or walk him?
Get the easy out or try to get the play at the plate?
Pull the all star pitcher that just let 2 runs score or wait and see if he settles down?
DH or regular rotation?
Concentrate on the next pitch or try to pick the leadoff at first base?
Take the catcher's sign or shake it off?

Other sports are mostly just raw muscle, skill, and brawn. It's why I still like baseball...it's a thinking athlete's sport and always has been. I was never good at it, but I love it.


GB,

You got me confused with that one. As far as I know that's decided by which league you're in, or what stadium you're in for interleague games. You must have meant something else and I misunderstood.

Re: Dodgers vs Astro's

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:22 pm
by greybeard
I should probably have said pinch hitter, It all depends whether the manager wants the pitcher or any other player to take his turn at bat (normal rotation) or a better hitter take that turn at bat.