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Cleveland Browns

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:47 pm
by Bestoutwest
I have never seen a team so devoted to picking such un-NFL worthy quarterbacks.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:53 pm
by Caustic Burno
Bestoutwest wrote:I have never seen a team so devoted to picking such un-NFL worthy quarterbacks.


Texans are pretty good at it.
If a franchise QB fell through the roof of Reliant Stadium they would ruin or trade him.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:56 pm
by greybeard
Caustic Burno wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:I have never seen a team so devoted to picking such un-NFL worthy quarterbacks.


Texans are pretty good at it.
If a franchise QB fell through the roof of Reliant Stadium they would ruin or trade him.

They aided & abetted the Browns in all this (see #4 pick)
Price they paid to get rid of Brock Oswieller.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:20 am
by haase
I think Mayfield has about as much common sense as Johnny football, he can take a hit though when the police bounced his head off that retaining wall.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:32 am
by Son of Butch
Word from a good number of scouts is Mayfield is not Manziel and does not have the borderline psychopathic traits
of Manziel, he's a cock, but doesn't have Johnny's baggage.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:15 am
by greybeard
"borderline" ?
That's like saying Mexico City is right on the Rio Grande.
Manziel crossed that line way back yonder..

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:19 am
by haase
He sure is heading in the right direction.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:27 pm
by Son of Butch
Some reports indicate Josh Rosen #10 to Arizona is this year's possible problem child in working well with others.
Average Wonderlic score 20
Average NFL player score 22
Average NFL QB 24

1. Baker Mayfield Browns (craves attention) wonderlic 25 the same score as Dak Prescott and Mitch Turbisky
3. Sam Darnold NY Jets wonderlic 28 the same as Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Mark Sanchez
7. Josh Allen Buffalo Bills 37 same as Tony Romo and Akili Smith
10. Josh Rosen Arizona Cardinals 29 the same as Jimmy Garopollo and Tom Savage
32. Lamar Jackson Baltimore Ravens wonderlic 13 four other NFL qbs that scored 13 - Brad Banks, Brock Berlin
Rasheed Marshall and Neil O'Donnell

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:59 pm
by Bestoutwest
I just don't like his attitude. You come into the NFL that cocky and someone's going to knock your teeth out. It's a big step up, and we've seen time and time again how great college QB's can't do squat out there. I don't know who they should have drafted, but I don't believe a QB was a good choice. Maybe Barkley, the RB, or a really strong OL, make things interesting.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:51 pm
by haase
Don't remember a whole lot of cocky qbs that came out of college that ever amounted to anything, don't see Brady or Rodgers acting cocky there just good on a whole different level.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:55 pm
by TexasBred
Son of Butch wrote:Some reports indicate Josh Rosen #10 to Arizona is this year's possible problem child in working well with others.
Average Wonderlic score 20
Average NFL player score 22
Average NFL QB 24

1. Baker Mayfield Browns (craves attention) wonderlic 25 the same score as Dak Prescott and Mitch Turbisky
3. Sam Darnold NY Jets wonderlic 28 the same as Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Mark Sanchez
7. Josh Allen Buffalo Bills 37 same as Tony Romo and Akili Smith
10. Josh Rosen Arizona Cardinals 29 the same as Jimmy Garopollo and Tom Savage
32. Lamar Jackson Baltimore Ravens wonderlic 13 four other NFL qbs that scored 13 - Brad Banks, Brock Berlin
Rasheed Marshall and Neil O'Donnell



Johnny Manziel scored 32 on it.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:59 pm
by TexasBred
Bestoutwest wrote:I just don't like his attitude. You come into the NFL that cocky and someone's going to knock your teeth out. It's a big step up, and we've seen time and time again how great college QB's can't do squat out there. I don't know who they should have drafted, but I don't believe a QB was a good choice. Maybe Barkley, the RB, or a really strong OL, make things interesting.


Give him a chance.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:14 pm
by haase
At least he will save the browns some money in the cold weather games, they won't need to buy him hand warmers, he's always grabbing something else.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 am
by Son of Butch
haase wrote:Don't remember a whole lot of cocky qbs that came out of college that ever amounted to anything, don't see Brady or Rodgers acting cocky there just good on a whole different level.

Aaron Rodgers not cocky? LOL
Aaron Rogers fell from being the #1 pick in 2005 draft to #24 to Green Bay bcs at his pre draft interview with the 49ers
he was rated such a cock with an inflated ego that 49ers head coach Mike Nolan stated "I can't work with this guy"
and 49ers drafted qb Phil Rivers at #1 instead of Rodgers. Rodgers kept falling bcs of his attitude not lack of talent.

Brett Favre has said the 1st time they met Rodgers walked up to him and said "Good Morning Grandpa."
The best thing that happened to Rodgers was to fall in the draft and then have to sit on the bench for 3 years
learning to respect veterans and other team leaders before getting to play. No love lost between Favre and Rodgers
2 giant egos and both of them cocky as all get out.

Re: Cleveland Browns

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:58 am
by haase
Never knew that the 49ers drafted Phillip rivers, I I thought the giants drafted rivers and was then traded to the chargers, he was drafted before Rodgers though, by a whole year, Smith and Rodgers were considered just above average qbs nothing great, Smith probably went ahead of Rodgers because of the great coach Mike Nolan ability to draft, didn't work out that great for him with a 18-37 record as a head coach.