Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by ga.prime » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:16 pm

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An article I read said an old bull giraffe like this one doesn't breed anymore and actually kills the younger bulls that are crucial to propagate the species.

Don't know why I'm jumping on this merry go round of imbeciles, but yes, reportedly he had already killed three younger breeding bulls and was sanctioned for extermination by the South African authorities. Probably not for free either.


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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:25 pm

Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:33 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.


CB. In lots of areas they did not survive. They were shot off to make way for man and livestock. Many of the "game farms" in Namibia and Republic of South Africa have brought them back. Personally, game farm hunts do not appeal to me but I have no problem with others pursuing them. They have restored a lot of species in areas where they were previously exterminated.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:40 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.


CB. In lots of areas they did not survive. They were shot off to make way for man and livestock. Many of the "game farms" in Namibia and Republic of South Africa have brought them back. Personally, game farm hunts do not appeal to me but I have no problem with others pursuing them. They have restored a lot of species in areas where they were previously exterminated.



Your missing the point the species survived for centuries until as you said they were shot out.
A canned hunt WOW impressive.
Don’t get me wrong I love to hunt.
I just don’t get shooting something for grins.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:48 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
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Caustic Burno wrote:Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.


CB. In lots of areas they did not survive. They were shot off to make way for man and livestock. Many of the "game farms" in Namibia and Republic of South Africa have brought them back. Personally, game farm hunts do not appeal to me but I have no problem with others pursuing them. They have restored a lot of species in areas where they were previously exterminated.



Your missing the point the species survived for centuries until as you said they were shot out.
A canned hunt WOW impressive.
Don’t get me wrong I love to hunt.
I just don’t get shooting something for grins.


I see your point. It is a matter of personal ethics. IMO, anytime you hunt for sport, you are killing for "grins" or in other words for the sport of hunting. Some say well, I eat the meat - what difference does that truly make? The animal sure as heII don't see a difference.

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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Caustic Burno » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:53 pm

I don’t even like to shoot feral hogs to just kill to rot. Wish the state could come with a real control method for them.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:56 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:I don’t even like to shoot feral hogs to just kill to rot. Wish the state could come with a real control method for them.


I have gotten to the point that I only will kill something that is harmful. Such as the feral hog situation and I am completely sympathetic to finding a better control method. I am sure you don't do it because you like to.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Brute 23 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:04 am

ga.prime wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
bird dog wrote:I fail to see the entertainment value in shooting a magnificent animal like that. Now if she wants to hunt some hogs, I'm your man.


An article I read said an old bull giraffe like this one doesn't breed anymore and actually kills the younger bulls that are crucial to propagate the species.

Don't know why I'm jumping on this merry go round of imbeciles, but yes, reportedly he had already killed three younger breeding bulls and was sanctioned for extermination by the South African authorities. Probably not for free either.


Its not my cup of tea but those hunts are important to protecting those animals. As said, the meat usually goes to the local villages and they don't just shoot random animals. The money for these hunts goes toward the conservation effort also.

A lot of these animals would not be thriving today if not for these hunters.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by cowgirl8 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:50 am

Caustic Burno wrote:Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.

The same way coyotes in California or any population explosion of humans that take their habitat.
I know someone who has a mounted giraffe. Said they hated shooting it, but saw what doing it did for the community and the animal was no longer fertile and was old. Just like the cattle business, you wouldn't keep a bull around that isn't productive. If someone came to your place and said, I'll give you 20,000 to shoot that bull.....would you do it even if you're sending him off for slaughter for 98 cents a pound?
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:24 am

cowgirl8 wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Wonder how the breed survived before being sold off in big game hunts?
Sounds more like a convenient way to sell giraffe hunts.

The same way coyotes in California or any population explosion of humans that take their habitat.
I know someone who has a mounted giraffe. Said they hated shooting it, but saw what doing it did for the community and the animal was no longer fertile and was old. Just like the cattle business, you wouldn't keep a bull around that isn't productive. If someone came to your place and said, I'll give you 20,000 to shoot that bull.....would you do it even if you're sending him off for slaughter for 98 cents a pound?



No I wouldn’t some things are not about money. It’s not the demise of the bull that bothers me, it’s the type person that enjoys the canned hunt that does.
IMOO these type hunts hurt the ethical Hunter.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by greybeard » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:43 am

Caustic Burno wrote:I don’t even like to shoot feral hogs to just kill to rot. Wish the state could come with a real control method for them.


I feel pretty dam good when one of my Remedy/diesel/Sendero treated trees dies and falls over and/or when ol Bucky floats up a day or 2 later after I hit him with buckshot or I find him in a conibear bloatin up, honestly...I'm all grins.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by mwj » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:44 pm

If ethics are such a big deal, why is it that they have no trouble shooting a buck on its way in to there ''feeder'' for some corn? Is that why they are a nuisance ?
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Caustic Burno » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:06 pm

mwj wrote:If ethics are such a big deal, why is it that they have no trouble shooting a buck on its way in to there ''feeder'' for some corn? Is that why they are a nuisance ?


It doesn’t have to be a buck for me.
I am going to put two in the freezer regardless of sex. After that I am back to chasing tree rats.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Bright Raven » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:21 pm

mwj wrote:If ethics are such a big deal, why is it that they have no trouble shooting a buck on its way in to there ''feeder'' for some corn? Is that why they are a nuisance ?


Ethics is a matter of personal opinion. Nothing more. Some hunters believe hunting with anything other than a spear is unsporting. The next guy wants the buck to walk into his freezer and dress himself.
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Re: Once in a lifetime dream hunt................

Post by Ky hills » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:23 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
mwj wrote:If ethics are such a big deal, why is it that they have no trouble shooting a buck on its way in to there ''feeder'' for some corn? Is that why they are a nuisance ?


It doesn’t have to be a buck for me.
I am going to put two in the freezer regardless of sex. After that I am back to chasing tree rats.


I am not much of a hunter, but have no problem at all with folks that hunt responsibly, which I think most do. I don't know about any area other than around these parts, but deer are pretty numerous, in spite of deer hunting being very popular. While I love to see them, I know that they do cause damage to crops, gardens and fences, and hunting does help control the population which I think probably keeps down diseases as well.

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