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Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:13 pm
by Nesikep
Perhaps that's the problem.. it's gone from a sport to a career, to "nothing else matters"

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:16 pm
by Bright Raven
Nesikep wrote:Perhaps that's the problem.. it's gone from a sport to a career, to "nothing else matters"


Exactly. It is a way of life. I don't have the affection but I understand it.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:04 pm
by haase
Why should it be any different in sports than it is in life? If you wake up in the morning and go to your job or your business and say hey I hope that I can be second best today, than your not setting your goals high enough, if you put in the effort to be 1st the effort will pay off, in the long run, just my :2cents:

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:53 am
by greybeard
haase wrote:Why should it be any different in sports than it is in life? If you wake up in the morning and go to your job or your business and say hey I hope that I can be second best today, than your not setting your goals high enough, if you put in the effort to be 1st the effort will pay off, in the long run, just my :2cents:


I dunno about that....maybe there's something to be said for mediocrity and blending in...........& when running from the lions and zombies, you don't have to be fastest, just faster than the slowest in your group.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:53 pm
by JMJ Farms
haase wrote:Why should it be any different in sports than it is in life? If you wake up in the morning and go to your job or your business and say hey I hope that I can be second best today, than your not setting your goals high enough, if you put in the effort to be 1st the effort will pay off, in the long run, just my :2cents:


There’s no requirement that you have to be a butthole to people around you to be the best. Saban is an absolutely awesome coach. No arguing that. And it’s a good thing. Because if he were anything less, his antics wouldn’t be tolerated.

I’m a borderline perfectionist myself, but the day I have to start stomping my hat, or throwing my hammer across the room, or screaming and cussing my employees because they cut a board the wrong length or dropped a drill off the ladder is the day I will quit or either find some new ones.

There are different ways to handle problems, whether it be life or football. I don’t approve of many of his. But, I say again, he is an absolutely phenomenal coach. And obviously a good teacher as well bc Kirby Smart is doing it to it down here at UGA. GO DAWGS!

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:56 pm
by Nesikep
Maybe if I was getting paid millions to throw a football I'd put up with the bullshyte attitudes

But I can say that at any wage I'm liable to get, boss throws temper tantrums, insults, etc around he can kiss my arse goodbye.. Or I'll just stop trying to be a good employee and become a shmuck.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:33 pm
by Bestoutwest
bball wrote:There was a helluva lot more going on between Kiffin and Saban at that time than just a crap play call that resulted in a fumble. Tensions were high behind the scenes.
Saban is the top of the food chain in college football. Strong type A personalities have little to no patience for anything less than perfection. It's why his team's are consistently elite. I played my high school ball for a similar type of coach. He remains one of the winningest coaches in Indiana HS football history and he's been dead for almost 20 years. The fact is this type of behavior correlates to high level accountability which correlates to success. It has worked effectively for centuries in military training also. It's never fun to be the recipient.
As far as life and death goes, football in Alabama. Nuff said! :P


You and I both work medical. Is there any situation that requires perfection more than a trauma situation? Maybe war, certain police situations, but certainly not football. If we have a doctor that acts that way, they are brought before a board of their peers and disciplined.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:43 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Or even beating a cheating wife.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:00 pm
by haase
Mediocrity GB is the best most people can do today, and most cant ever do that, but they have a good excuse why they cant, doesn't matter if its sports or real life, either shyt or get off the pot.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:28 am
by sstterry
bball wrote:There was a helluva lot more going on between Kiffin and Saban at that time than just a crap play call that resulted in a fumble. Tensions were high behind the scenes.
Saban is the top of the food chain in college football. Strong type A personalities have little to no patience for anything less than perfection. It's why his team's are consistently elite. I played my high school ball for a similar type of coach. He remains one of the winningest coaches in Indiana HS football history and he's been dead for almost 20 years. The fact is this type of behavior correlates to high level accountability which correlates to success. It has worked effectively for centuries in military training also. It's never fun to be the recipient.
As far as life and death goes, football in Alabama. Nuff said! :P


If you visit Alabama, there is only one question they care about. "Do you support Auburn or Alabama"

My daughter is at Alabama now and I know that the fans in Tuscaloosa were ready for Kiffin to go. Not because of football, but because of his off the field conduct. College bars and college-age girls is not a good combination for a high profile coach. Just google "Joey Freshwater" and you will see what I am talking about.

He had the same conduct the one year he was at Tennessee. Wrecked a "loaner" Lexus after a night of drinking and a couple of co-eds in the car. He is a brilliant offensive mind, but he has maturity issues.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:53 am
by greybeard
anyone notice?
Unranked Texas A&M beat Ky today.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:07 pm
by TexasBred
greybeard wrote:anyone notice?
Unranked Texas A&M beat Ky today.


Bright Raven has been suspiciously quiet. :lol2:

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:42 pm
by Bright Raven
TexasBred wrote:
greybeard wrote:anyone notice?
Unranked Texas A&M beat Ky today.


Bright Raven has been suspiciously quiet. :lol2:


:lol:

It was going to happen. I am not convinced yet they are authentic. They did go into overtime.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:10 pm
by JMJ Farms
Bright Raven wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
greybeard wrote:anyone notice?
Unranked Texas A&M beat Ky today.


Bright Raven has been suspiciously quiet. :lol2:


:lol:

It was going to happen. I am not convinced yet they are authentic. They did go into overtime.


Something was in the air yesterday. Last week on college pick em my record was 19-6. This week I was 9-16. A lot of upsets yesterday.

Re: Kentucky 28 - (14) Miss State 7. This is crazy!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:07 pm
by TexasBred
Bestoutwest wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Best. I am not a sports fan but I lurk. I don't watch games but for some reason, I do watch sports news and read.

Why is he a butthole? Dang it. He is doing what he is paid to do. He is not auditioning for " Mr. CONGENIALITY". I still say most of the dislike for him is "sour grapes".


I understand "passion" and getting upset when things don't go your way during sports. I've played, watched, been a ref, etc. There isn't a place in sports for just undressing someone verbally b/c they made a mistake in a game. Unless it's life or death (ex. war, trauma room, OR when someone is crapping out), there's no need for screaming at someone. Just because there's big money involved doesn't make it excusable.

As for the sour grapes, in the grand scheme of the universe who cares who wins at throwing a leather covered air bladder on Saturday or Sunday. I have no team. No skin in the game. But I enjoy watching a coach that coaches by lifting players up than tearing them down. Washington's Chris Peterson is a good example. Pete Carroll is another.

Here's a good example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-JGDBd4ls


I played for a coach much like Saben went on to coach under Bum Phillips.......99.9% of the team would kill for him. Even after the vicious a$$ eating.