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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:01 am

Jogeephus wrote:Someone will make a killing off this. Probably not the producer but those who are doing the certifying surely will. People want to feel a connection with their food.


Many folks want cheap food from a factory. Some folks want good food from a local, but are often confused by labels and certifications.

Local grass fed producers here are struggling to compete with not cool imports. Are there good examples were producers benefited from a local brand, or are quality food producers limited to one on one relationship selling?
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby dieselbeef » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:06 am

people will buy whatever is cheapest 90% of the time..wanna get rich..market to poor people
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:08 am

dieselbeef wrote:people will buy whatever is cheapest 90% of the time..wanna get rich..market to poor people


How about some taco filling made out of beans?
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby dieselbeef » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:15 am

marketing is about the cheapest..ever heard of dollar meals?

make it cheap enough for food stamps and youll be set for life
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby TCRanch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:32 am

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TCRanch wrote:Beef is doing similar with all the Farm To Table. Not necessarily promoting organic NO antibiotics ever but Creekstone Farms Premium Beef brings a lot of their big customers to the ranch for marketing opportunities. They get to take pics & videos hand-feeding, bottle feeding, petting, walking through my herd so they can post on their websites/show all their customers how they purchase & subsequently serve happy, healthy cows. But Creekstone also takes them to feedlots and through their slaughter process so the customer is truly aware it's not all green grass & sunshine.


Do they pay the advertising fee that we pay at the sale barn. If they do okay otherwise they are riding on our nickle.

I have no problem allowing them to promote BQA & humane treatment & do not expect to be compensated. Although the Director of Cattle Procurement is also tied to a family operation/feedlot and they purchase the majority of my steers, the majority of my heifers are bought as replacements by another associate.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby shaz » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:13 am

Son of Butch wrote:
shaz wrote:Can't imagine ANY farmer owns enough chickens to keep up with production.

IF not from farms where do you think chickens come from?

Can you imagine ANY farmer selling enough steers direct to a packer to earn a volume bonus?


Any farmer owns enough...

These chickens are mostly owned by Tyson and such.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:32 am

One of the things you sometimes find is a company or a producer who is making good money in a break even, or unprofitable, industry. They usually have a better brand name or better marketing or both. The not -so-good marketing group often reacts with more cost cutting or more complaining or lower salaries or more volume...

Which group are we in?
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby Son of Butch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:08 am

shaz wrote:
shaz wrote:Can't imagine ANY farmer owns enough chickens to keep up with production.


These chickens are mostly owned by Tyson and such.

And that is one of Shenandoah's selling points... Farmer owned... rather than the industry standard indentured servitude model used by Tyson ect.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby shaz » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:56 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:One of the things you sometimes find is a company or a producer who is making good money in a break even, or unprofitable, industry. They usually have a better brand name or better marketing or both. The not -so-good marketing group often reacts with more cost cutting or more complaining or lower salaries or more volume...

Which group are we in?


Bad marketing. I couldn't be a salesman or politician if my life depended on it.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:34 pm

dieselbeef wrote:people will buy whatever is cheapest 90% of the time..wanna get rich..market to poor people


If you wanna get rich, sell the feathers and eat the beef. No kidding a "jungle cock" cape just sold on ebay for $435, Yes Just the cape of feathers from around the cocks neck. It seems there is big business in this from fly tying.

So I am checking my Amerucuanas closely. Really close. If any of them still have the "eye" pattern in their feathers I will no longer throw the feathers in the trash can. I will cape every dang one of them from now on.

The people paying big bucks don't care if the feathers are from GMO free, cage free, free range, open range etc. All natural feathers are going on the end of a fishing fly.

Yes I have bee gullible enough to throw feathers away when I plucked a chicken.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby TexasBred » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:23 pm

Son of Butch wrote:
shaz wrote:
shaz wrote:Can't imagine ANY farmer owns enough chickens to keep up with production.


These chickens are mostly owned by Tyson and such.

And that is one of Shenandoah's selling points... Farmer owned... rather than the industry standard indentured servitude model used by Tyson ect.

Must be a little profit in it. Folks are throwing up 8 or 10 of those new chicken houses as fast as they can get them built. Same for turkey farmers.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby jehosofat » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:33 pm

shaz wrote:
Stocker Steve wrote:One of the things you sometimes find is a company or a producer who is making good money in a break even, or unprofitable, industry. They usually have a better brand name or better marketing or both. The not -so-good marketing group often reacts with more cost cutting or more complaining or lower salaries or more volume...

Which group are we in?


Bad marketing. I couldn't be a salesman or politician if my life depended on it.


Nothing in the world moves without a salesman getting the ball rolling.
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby 1982vett » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:24 pm

TexasBred wrote:Must be a little profit in it. Folks are throwing up 8 or 10 of those new chicken houses as fast as they can get them built. Same for turkey farmers.

Yeah....the litter sells for $35 a ton....... :D
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:32 am

1982vett wrote:
TexasBred wrote:Must be a little profit in it. Folks are throwing up 8 or 10 of those new chicken houses as fast as they can get them built. Same for turkey farmers.

Yeah....the litter sells for $35 a ton....... :D


That's kind of chicken chit aint it ?
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Re: Chicken vs Beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:35 am

I'm probably going to buy gray jungle fowl eggs, incubate them, and line breed some, if they'll breed, to my Amerucuanas

If this doesn't work its not a big loss.
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