Sympathy towards Fed workers......

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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by Bestoutwest » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:01 pm

I feel bad for the folks. Yes, it's their fault that they can't save, however, it's not their fault their jobs were put on hold. It's not a good situation, and one area where employee retention could be improved.


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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by greybeard » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:09 pm

however, it's not their fault their jobs were put on hold.

It happens in the private sector every single day......and most times, not their fault either.
Downsize, RIF, M&A, jobs sent overseas.......it happens....every day.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by Bestoutwest » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:18 pm

greybeard wrote:
however, it's not their fault their jobs were put on hold.

It happens in the private sector every single day......and most times, not their fault either.
Downsize, RIF, M&A, jobs sent overseas.......it happens....every day.


Sure does, and I sympathize with those folks, too. My neighbor works for an internationally known company. They come in routinely on a Monday and are given a box, and a pat on the back. It's really destructive. We all have to remember not everyone is as intelligent as we are. Educated in the same way. Had the same examples set forth for us at home. Have any common sense. Etc.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:55 pm

I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't missed or went without anything since the government shut down. I say keep the shut down permanent and put everyone's wages and retirement towards building the wall. Then there will be plenty of jobs available for those who want to work.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by Dave » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:32 pm

What is to feel sorry for? These people are getting time off with pay. Sure they have to wait for the check but it will come and they will have done nothing to earn it. I worked in the woods for years where people were fired at the drop of a hat. I saw an entire riggin crew fired one afternoon because they weren't getting enough wood out. No looking to see what or who was the hold up, just 7 men down the road. I worked for a cutting contractor who had 12 fallers working for him. Every Friday he fired the slowest guy on the crew. Come Monday there would be a new guy to take his place. Probably 80% of the time that new guy was the one sent packing on the next Friday. These government employees have job security, great benefits, regular raises, and we are supposed to feel sympathy when we are the ones paying them to stay home?

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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by JMJ Farms » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:38 pm

Dave wrote:What is to feel sorry for? These people are getting time off with pay. Sure they have to wait for the check but it will come and they will have done nothing to earn it. I worked in the woods for years where people were fired at the drop of a hat. I saw an entire riggin crew fired one afternoon because they weren't getting enough wood out. No looking to see what or who was the hold up, just 7 men down the road. I worked for a cutting contractor who had 12 fallers working for him. Every Friday he fired the slowest guy on the crew. Come Monday there would be a new guy to take his place. Probably 80% of the time that new guy was the one sent packing on the next Friday. These government employees have job security, great benefits, regular raises, and we are supposed to feel sympathy when we are the ones paying them to stay home?


Really no different than if they had been at work.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by sim.-ang.king » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:56 pm

The tax payers will be the one's suffering once they get paid. Almost a month of back pay. Yikes!
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by Lucky » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:07 pm

I think more families than anyone knows still live paycheck to paycheck or worse. I’m gonna say most of the people not getting paid will live on credit cards until this is over. Problem is 75% will blow the back pay on vacations or big screen TVs instead of paying the cards off. Oh well everyones gotta live their life I guess.

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Post by Beefeater » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:13 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't missed or went without anything since the government shut down. I say keep the shut down permanent and put everyone's wages and retirement towards building the wall. Then there will be plenty of jobs available for those who want to work.


I support building the wall. However, I can’t think of a single job any illegal aliens have ever held that I would want or could support my family on. And if all those jobs go to Americans what do you think will happen to the cost of goods or services produced?

By retirement you also mean Social Security right? donating yours for the wall? Just curious. Taking a break from my home remodeling project and stirring the pot a bit... Don’t take me too serious. It just
Makes me smile a bit to think some believe our problems will be magically solved by a wall.

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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by JMJ Farms » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 pm

Beefeater wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't missed or went without anything since the government shut down. I say keep the shut down permanent and put everyone's wages and retirement towards building the wall. Then there will be plenty of jobs available for those who want to work.


I support building the wall. However, I can’t think of a single job any illegal aliens have ever held that I would want or could support my family on. And if all those jobs go to Americans what do you think will happen to the cost of goods or services produced?

By retirement you also mean Social Security right? donating yours for the wall? Just curious. Taking a break from my home remodeling project and stirring the pot a bit... Don’t take me too serious. It just
Makes me smile a bit to think some believe our problems will be magically solved by a wall.


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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by skyhightree1 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 pm

JMJ Farms wrote:
Beefeater wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't missed or went without anything since the government shut down. I say keep the shut down permanent and put everyone's wages and retirement towards building the wall. Then there will be plenty of jobs available for those who want to work.


I support building the wall. However, I can’t think of a single job any illegal aliens have ever held that I would want or could support my family on. And if all those jobs go to Americans what do you think will happen to the cost of goods or services produced?

By retirement you also mean Social Security right? donating yours for the wall? Just curious. Taking a break from my home remodeling project and stirring the pot a bit... Don’t take me too serious. It just
Makes me smile a bit to think some believe our problems will be magically solved by a wall.


It definitely ain’t a home run. That’s for sure. But base hits win ball games :tiphat:


Look at other walls they work great till there tunneled under or gone over.. we need something in place but not sure a wall is the solution. I say stop funding anchor babies and immigrants no interest free loans etc when they come they are required to learn English before coming in. If they want to send money back home put a fee on it so high they won't want to come. Kinda like trick or treating kids don't go to houses with the lights off they go to the ones with lights giving things away.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:21 pm

sim.-ang.king wrote:The tax payers will be the one's suffering once they get paid. Almost a month of back pay. Yikes!



Shows we don’t need them in the first place IMO.
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by JMJ Farms » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:22 pm

skyhightree1 wrote:
JMJ Farms wrote:
Beefeater wrote:
I support building the wall. However, I can’t think of a single job any illegal aliens have ever held that I would want or could support my family on. And if all those jobs go to Americans what do you think will happen to the cost of goods or services produced?

By retirement you also mean Social Security right? donating yours for the wall? Just curious. Taking a break from my home remodeling project and stirring the pot a bit... Don’t take me too serious. It just
Makes me smile a bit to think some believe our problems will be magically solved by a wall.


It definitely ain’t a home run. That’s for sure. But base hits win ball games :tiphat:


Look at other walls they work great till there tunneled under or gone over.. we need something in place but not sure a wall is the solution. I say stop funding anchor babies and immigrants no interest free loans etc when they come they are required to learn English before coming in. If they want to send money back home put a fee on it so high they won't want to come. Kinda like trick or treating kids don't go to houses with the lights off they go to the ones with lights giving things away.


That’s my philosophy on how to build the wall. With their money. Easy as taking candy from a baby. And then after the wall is built, keep taxing it and apply it to the principal of the national debt. Foolproof and win win
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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by sim.-ang.king » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:43 pm

JMJ Farms wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:
JMJ Farms wrote:
It definitely ain’t a home run. That’s for sure. But base hits win ball games :tiphat:


Look at other walls they work great till there tunneled under or gone over.. we need something in place but not sure a wall is the solution. I say stop funding anchor babies and immigrants no interest free loans etc when they come they are required to learn English before coming in. If they want to send money back home put a fee on it so high they won't want to come. Kinda like trick or treating kids don't go to houses with the lights off they go to the ones with lights giving things away.


That’s my philosophy on how to build the wall. With their money. Easy as taking candy from a baby. And then after the wall is built, keep taxing it and apply it to the principal of the national debt. Foolproof and win win


A 1% tariff on imported goods from Mexico in 5 years would pay for a wall even Hillary would be proud of (If this was 2006).

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Re: Sympathy towards Fed workers......

Post by greybeard » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:10 am

Beefeater wrote:
I support building the wall. However, I can’t think of a single job any illegal aliens have ever held that I would want or could support my family on. And if all those jobs go to Americans what do you think will happen to the cost of goods or services produced?


Around here, there used to be lots of jobs that one could make a living at, that illegals now do. Carpenters, roofers, construction, heavy equipment operators...now almost all are mostly or in part done by illegals for less pay than the legal citizens used to do them for.
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