Tehema Tahoe

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Tehema Tahoe

Post by hornedfrogbbq » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:06 pm

Does anyone have experience or thoughts on this bull? I don't know the herd well either. Any input on them would be most helpful. PM me if you need to!



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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by Ebenezer » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:26 am

In searches look up as Tehama Tahoe (a instead of e).

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by hornedfrogbbq » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:34 am

Ooooo. Good catch. Sorry.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:30 am

https://www.tehamaangus.com/herd-sires
FYI the CA county they reside in is Tehama hence their name. I've purchased a number of bulls from them including a PS Sasquatch 904 x a dam from Tahoe's direct female family.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by MDickinson » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:39 pm

Select sires guy talked my dad into using him last spring. I wasn't a fan of his picture or the calves they had pictured in the catalog, but they were supposedly some of the best calves the select sires guys saw last fall on their tour. We have around 20 confirmed to him so I guess we will have a pretty good sample this coming spring.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:44 am

I wasn't a fan of his picture or the calves they had pictured in the catalog
Nor I...and especially his son pictured on Tehama's herd sire page. :frowns:
they were supposedly some of the best calves the select sires guys saw last fall on their tour.
All things considered, a chilling commentary but not surprising coming from semen pimps. :roll:
Will be interesting to hear your observations regarding your forthcoming spring calves.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:53 am

Edited to add...although thoroughly researched, none of the bulls I acquired from Tehama met my expectations & for a variety of reasons were culled in short order.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by jscunn » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:04 pm

76 Bar,
What were you reason (in general) for the culling?

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by Bcompton53 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:32 pm

so many of their herd bulls just look so broken down structurally. Maybe it doesn't matter, but they have such an ugly swayback look.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:44 pm

What were you reason (in general) for the culling?
FWIW...I greatly admired the family & Bill's groundbreaking pioneer dedication to performance testing. Icing on the cake they were located 100 miles from me. 1st bull was a Bando 155 son who turned out to have a deviated penis which I didn't discover until having sold a group of really nice open young cows after his 1st season. 2nd bull was an EXT son. Disposition wasn't an issue but he became crippled in my environment by the second season and not due to fighting other bulls. 3rd bull was the one I referenced previously. In spite of the late SS's Roy Wallace's insistence otherwise, he left a legacy of poor uddered coke bottle teated females. It should be duly noted that the female families had an impressive history and the bulls themselves were sale toppers. It was an expensive lesson.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:24 am

so many of their herd bulls just look so broken down structurally. Maybe it doesn't matter, but they have such an ugly swayback look.
Unfortunately that phenotype applies to a goodly number of Angus herd bulls and especially those in AI studs. Correct structure/conformation and pronounced masculinity appears to be in short supply. IMO the push for "more is better" & especially carcass is at the root of the problem.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by W.B. » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:34 pm

hornedfrogbbq wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:06 pm
Does anyone have experience or thoughts on this bull? I don't know the herd well either. Any input on them would be most helpful. PM me if you need to!
We used a 5204 traveler son Tehama Lite 561 back in the 90’s. The daughters were flat good and lasted a long time. From what I have seen from a small sample is they have emphasized foot quality more than most.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:37 pm

Your comment brought back memories. Tehama Lite 561 was my pick of their fall '92 yearlings. My bid lasted all but a few seconds before the feeding frenzy took place in earnest. :lol:

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by W.B. » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:14 am

76 Bar wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:37 pm
Your comment brought back memories. Tehama Lite 561 was my pick of their fall '92 yearlings. My bid lasted all but a few seconds before the feeding frenzy took place in earnest. :lol:
It’s too bad he wasn’t used more. After we calved our first crop of 561 daughters I wanted to use him more but couldn’t get semen. Select Sires sold a boatload of his half brother Traveler 565 and his daughters couldn’t hold a candle to 561.

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Re: Tehema Tahoe

Post by 76 Bar » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:41 am

W.B. wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:14 am
76 Bar wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:37 pm
Your comment brought back memories. Tehama Lite 561 was my pick of their fall '92 yearlings. My bid lasted all but a few seconds before the feeding frenzy took place in earnest. :lol:
It’s too bad he wasn’t used more. After we calved our first crop of 561 daughters I wanted to use him more but couldn’t get semen. Select Sires sold a boatload of his half brother Traveler 565 and his daughters couldn’t hold a candle to 561.
2 generations of pathfinders directly behind Lite. The Y764 cow & her progeny were held in high esteem by Tehama & others as well. Looked at his current data and FWIW wondering if his foot, docility and RE EPDs came home to roost/contributed to his decline?

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