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Red Angus

Post by dt34715 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:18 pm

Can you give a list of bulls that make good female replacements?



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Re: Red Angus

Post by 76 Bar » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:35 pm

Beckton genetics.

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Dsth » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:32 am

I have a few calves from Dubas Exellent Answer (ABS or ORIGEN) that I really like the way they look. None are old enough to be mommies yet but will be keeping some back for breeding next year. I wish the Red Angus breed would have more EPD data on their bulls. I contacted them through their email to find out when docility and other EPD data will be available, but have not heard anything back. I used a bull called NSFR Gretzky (ABS) 2 years ago and the replacements that I kept back from him are so excitable that I am not even going to breed them. will keep an eye on your post since the selection of Red Angus bulls seem to get lower each year.

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Re: Red Angus

Post by 76 Bar » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:27 am

I wish the Red Angus breed would have m ... available
RAAA currently provides 18 EPDs which not incidently includes a plethora of ER traits. It should be noted that the data is supported by 25 yrs of mandatory THR. The breed has historically been recognized for its outstanding docility hence the lack of a Docility EPD. YMMV if you use genetics from RAAA programs that opted to incorporate Blk Angus.
the selection of Red Angus bulls seem to get lower each year.

How so?

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Sostra » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:02 pm

I know there are some AI sires that are black Angus genetics "in a red suit". Has anyone used them and what is your feedback?

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Dsth » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:45 pm

76 Bar wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:27 am
I wish the Red Angus breed would have m ... available
RAAA currently provides 18 EPDs which not incidently includes a plethora of ER traits. It should be noted that the data is supported by 25 yrs of mandatory THR. The breed has historically been recognized for its outstanding docility hence the lack of a Docility EPD. YMMV if you use genetics from RAAA programs that opted to incorporate Blk Angus.
the selection of Red Angus bulls seem to get lower each year.

How so?
I have been getting some semen from Origen which had about 15 bulls on their list last year and only 3 this year. I also buy from ABS which seems to have about the same number but have not noticed any new and exciting bulls from there.

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Re: Red Angus

Post by 76 Bar » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:46 pm

I also buy from ABS which seems to have about the same number but have not noticed any new and exciting bulls from there
ABS has ~25. New & exciting unproven bulls are always a crap shoot regardless of breed. What are your goals?

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Hardnosecattleco » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:22 pm

I have been eyeing up domain and deep end there genex both seem like there numbers should make decent cows in my opinion

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Josher » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:42 pm

Another bull you should consider is Monopoly. My brother is into red angus and our AI rep recommended monopoly to him. He does a wonderful job. He has quite high calving ease but you sure couldn’t tell by fall. Calves are growthy and thick. I don’t think you can go wrong with him.

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Re: Red Angus

Post by Dsth » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:20 am

76 Bar wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:46 pm

ABS has ~25. New & exciting unproven bulls are always a crap shoot regardless of breed. What are your goals?
this year I used fusion and finished product. the top of my wants are docility with good frame and a wide butt. weaning weight and CE come next, and a nice bright red always helps. I agree that RA are generally docile but the Gretzky calves that I had last year do not exhibit that at all. no keeper for me because of that reason.

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Re: Red Angus

Post by 76 Bar » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:39 am

I looked up Gretzky and thought it telling that a 2009 born AI bull in a major Stud had only 136 progeny plus more than a few of those had in turn no progeny themselves. :roll:

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Re: Red Angus

Post by 76 Bar » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:49 am

I know there are some AI sires that are black Angus genetics "in a red suit". Has anyone used them and what is your feedback?
The Red gene has been inherent in Angus since day one. The only registry world wide that considerers it a defect is the AAA.

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