Angus sire ?

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Angus sire ?

Postby tnfarmboy67 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:59 am

What angus sire has the most average or above epd scores?

Ten X looks good as does Connealy Forward, KCF Bennett Absolute, and SydGen Turbo.
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:00 pm

Sydgen Liberty GA 8627 is often over looked.
http://www.bullbarn.com/angblkepd.asp?ID=1719
Liberty is above breed average for 21 of 25 traits with .90 accuracy on birth weights
$16 semen makes him a best buy to boot.

But according to your criteria the winner is....
Connealy Counselor $24 with 23 of 25 traits above breed average his only 2 negative traits are DMI and $EN -29

Hoover Dam $26 and 20 of 25 traits
Black Granite $30 and 20 of 25 traits
Absolute $35 and 19 of 25 traits

Ten X $60 has 7 of 25 traits at or Below breed average
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby torogmc81 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:41 pm

Is that all you care about???


I believe Liberty is deceased, but yes still selling, wonder how much they have stocked up??
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Postby Lucky_P » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:01 pm

Used a half-cane of Liberty on some heifers a few years back; calves were totally unremarkable... but I don't expect record-breaking performance out of first-timers. Reputation for slick hair/early shedding was the draw for me. But, I haven't been back to him.

Respected Angus breeder and veterinarian friend strongly recommended Counselor to me as a good bull that would sire good females with great foot/leg structure, shortly before he passed earlier this year.
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby Son of Butch » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:31 pm

torogmc81 wrote:Is that all you care about???

I believe what he may be looking for is a plug and go bull that won't hurt him too much in any particular area.
Doing the search made me appreciate how much Counselor really has going for him that I did not notice before.
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby jscunn » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:03 pm

Where are you located TNFarmboy? I know where you can see some Liberty and probably Turbo progeny.. Liberty worked well here..

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Almost 2 yr old Liberty bull calf. 1400# yearling wt, 7 % IMF and a 16.1 sq in ribeye. Some of them will work..
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby tnfarmboy67 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:19 pm

Nice looking bull. I'm in south west Tennessee.
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby jscunn » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:27 pm

Well the place I know is in Northeast TN so couldnt be worse.. lol
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby tnfarmboy67 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:30 pm

torogmc81 wrote:Is that all you care about???

I'm just looking at all options, but why wouldn't you want as many positive traits as possible.
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby Warrior2154 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:19 pm

What do you want from a phenotype standpoint? Some people breed for only epd numbers, some for only phenotype, some for both epds and phenotype. Just trying to get better feel for what you want in your cattle?
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Re: Angus sire ?

Postby Jabes0623 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:26 pm

I was going to use Counselor on two cows this year but when I went to order him he was on back order. I was very disappointed, threw a real wrench in my plan. Hopefully I can use home on a few cows next year.

I haven't checked since does anyone know if he's back available?
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