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Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby torogmc81 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:28 pm

..... that has mating flexibility (more specifically non FA sons/grand), big time ACC. A bull that gives you that feeling of maximum "heifer safe" combined with "not wasting a calf".

I recently bought Connealy Courage for our FA influenced, but I want a different bull honestly. We still have a young herd and continue to keep many heifers to build.

I like Whitlock but I'd rather use him and Hoover Dam on 2nd timers. Whitlock's numbers are likely to come down (CED) IMHO.

We have Capitalist 316 for non FA.

First that came to mind was SAV Bismark.
Any other thoughts or suggestions?
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby bse » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:49 pm

I used some Manning 17831034
Concord 18148348
Jindra Acclaim 17972810

No specific reason, Concord and Manning just got my attention.
Acclaim bred my grandsons heifers to him, if Acclaim works out he could have some great numbers to start a herd at 2yrs old and if Acclaim doesn't work he will have time to correct it.
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby Lazy M » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:55 pm

I used 3F Epic on heifers this fall. He seems to meet all your criteria..
https://bullsearch.absglobal.com/en-us/ ... ountry/222
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby Ky hills » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:30 pm

I like Hoover Dam really well, have used for 3 consecutive years, in the past and used a home raised son as a clean up bull. Kept a couple daughters that have been good dependable cows.
Kesslers Frontman, also from ABS is one that worked well with our heifers too, we used a son out of a Final Answer daughter, for a couple years.
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby Warrior2154 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:49 pm

Hoover Dam
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GAR Sure Fire
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby Midtenn » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:31 pm

I used musgrave aviator this time on my heifers but Aviator is a FA grand son. I'm no line breeding expert but I think first cousins would be fine?
One of my heifers is a gr-gr- grand daughter of FA. Hope that's ok. The others had no FA in pedigree
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby torogmc81 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:41 pm

Midtenn wrote:I used musgrave aviator this time on my heifers but Aviator is a FA grand son. I'm no line breeding expert but I think first cousins would be fine?
One of my heifers is a gr-gr- grand daughter of FA. Hope that's ok. The others had no FA in pedigree

I'm not sure either but would love to get some input on the FA breeding from Aviator

Looks like Origen carries Aviator. Did ABS or someone used to carryhim?

Should be good on fescue coming from Musgrave. I like what i see, just might have to watch his 5.1 frame on a few of mine.
Thanks for pointing him out
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby Son of Butch » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:57 pm

Midtenn wrote:I used musgrave aviator this time on my heifers but Aviator is a FA grand son.
I'm no line breeding expert but I think would be fine?
One of my heifers is a gr-gr- grand daughter of FA. Hope that's ok.

Using a FA son on a FA maternal granddaughter would be recommended when line breeding.
So the FA that much farther back in the pedigrees should not cause you concern.
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby SchenkAngusFarm » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:43 am

torogmc81 wrote:..... that has mating flexibility (more specifically non FA sons/grand), big time ACC. A bull that gives you that feeling of maximum "heifer safe" combined with "not wasting a calf".

I recently bought Connealy Courage for our FA influenced, but I want a different bull honestly. We still have a young herd and continue to keep many heifers to build.

I like Whitlock but I'd rather use him and Hoover Dam on 2nd timers. Whitlock's numbers are likely to come down (CED) IMHO.

We have Capitalist 316 for non FA.

First that came to mind was SAV Bismark.
Any other thoughts or suggestions?


Those Bismarck pink straws would work for you just fine if you can get your hands on them! :D

I agree with you on Whitlock.
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby SchenkAngusFarm » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:45 am

bse wrote:I used some Manning 17831034
Concord 18148348
Jindra Acclaim 17972810

No specific reason, Concord and Manning just got my attention.
Acclaim bred my grandsons heifers to him, if Acclaim works out he could have some great numbers to start a herd at 2yrs old and if Acclaim doesn't work he will have time to correct it.


I bought some eggs using Acclaim. Let me know how yours look. I'm probably going to wait until the fall to put them in.
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Re: Best Angus bull for heifers ...

Postby bse » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:03 am

S A F, I'll let you know, mine won't be here till Sept, but I should be seeing a few others around April.
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