Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Silver » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:10 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
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The most significant metric is surface area on the bone and size. You are correct. The dimensions of the bone.


Right, so you can in fact have less bone and more muscle. ;-)


Lol. I think I covered myself well saying it is not a DIRECT relationship without exception. But bone size does correlate to muscle mass. In general, there is greater potential to pack more muscle on a big bone than there is on a small bone.


I think the Blonde d'Aquitaine association would take issue with that lol
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lrj505 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:29 am

Speaking of Gelbveih I purchased a huge black cow off a neighbor. Swears it’s Gelbvieh no papers. Last year she weaned a 659 pound calf. I have never seen a gelbvieh in person. Here is a pic of her and her 1 day old calf. Is it Gelbvieh? Or just a big cow. Weighs about 1,500

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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lrj505 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:18 pm

Found a son of Resource and an Upgrade son. The Upgrade calf is from an AI tech and the Resource calf is from a highly reputable Bull breeder. Price on Upgrade calf is $1500 Resource calf is $4000. Both are 6 months. I would like a breeder or a clean up bull. Opinions thanks ? Resource calf is on top . I think $4000 is outrageous for a calf
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Supa Dexta » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:52 am

Lrj505 wrote:a huge black cow

Last year she weaned a 659 pound calf.

Weighs about 1,500


We have differing scales of huge, and thats only 44% weaned. Can't tell ya whats in her beyond not enough performance. 659s a fine weight don't get me wrong, there's just much smaller cows that will do that.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Supa Dexta » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:54 am

Lrj505 wrote:I think $4000 is outrageous for a calf


Does he always sell private? Or will it end up at a sale? You're always free to make an offer, and wait it out. If it sells before hand that's what the price was. If it makes it to a sale, then you'll know for sure what the market brings.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lrj505 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:09 am

The Guy that has Resource calf hs bull sales on his ranch one Utah. And only private.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lazy M » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:27 pm

Lrj505 wrote:Found a son of Resource and an Upgrade son. The Upgrade calf is from an AI tech and the Resource calf is from a highly reputable Bull breeder. Price on Upgrade calf is $1500 Resource calf is $4000. Both are 6 months. I would like a breeder or a clean up bull. Opinions thanks ? Resource calf is on top . I think $4000 is outrageous for a calf
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From the pics I like the resource calf. Not sure if he is worth the extra $2500 over the other though.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lrj505 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:28 pm

Resource calf is registered. Why do bull calf’s like this with papers usually go for ? I sold all commercial cows and am starting over. All registered stock.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Air gator » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:56 pm

The Resource bull isn't worth $4,000 but the Upgrade son will add some frame. He may
not be good for heifers either.
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Lrj505 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:06 pm

Which bull would be better for if I want to keep replacements? Or what are the better AI bulls for replacements ?
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Tbrake » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:22 pm

Lrj505 wrote:Which bull would be better for if I want to keep replacements? Or what are the better AI bulls for replacements ?


Chisum 6175
Connealy right answer
Hoover dam
7229
Have all put good females in my herd
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Re: Upgrade or Resource bull? Gelbvieh?

Postby Dixie2542 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:33 am

"Chisum 6175" unfortunately I think is gone. Called about it last week and they said they didn't have anymore showing... i think he died a year or so ago. Maybe a local tech may still have some.

How are 7229's back feet? Do they have real shallow heels? how long have they lasted in your herd?
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