First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

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First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Lrj505 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:37 am

Moved to registered cattle, and want to AI. I ordered a 20 liter semen tank , 3 10 packs of cidr. What else do I need ? Do I need to get Lutalyse as well? What’s the most effective way to do this? And recommendations on bulls. Thanks. I have 10 final answer daughter cows that weigh about 1,500 pounds.



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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Bright Raven » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:42 am

A simple TAI (Timed Artificial Insemination) is the 7 day protocol. You will need:

CIDRs
GnRH (Fertagyl or Cystorelin)
Lutalyse.

Google Select Sires Seven Day Timed Artificial Insemination Synchronization. It will provide the details.
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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Air gator » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:58 pm

I missed out on breeding cows/heifers in the past because I didn't realize that you could breed without seeing signs of mounting. When you pull the CIDRS it gives you a window or time when you can breed them without seeing them in standing heat. It is worth the cost of the CIDR to do that. Use a good mineral and/or multimin for best results.

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by kentuckyguy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:21 pm

When you say multimin exactly what are you referring too?

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by bse » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:20 pm

If your breeding your own cattle, forget TAI sync them, use a patch breed when needed.then breed all that's left at 72hrs after removing cidr. If a tech is coming then TAI may be the answer.
Day 1 gnrh +cidr
Day 7 remove cidr + pg
Around 60 to 72hrs on mature cows breed + gnrh
Lot of folks don't like the patch, absolute time saver worth the $1

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Lrj505 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:44 pm

Why is pg? With no bulls in the pen ? Would I be relying on other cows to mount and scratch the patches ?

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by ez14. » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:57 pm

Do you know how to artificially inseminate a cow? Or do you have someone lined up to do the breeding for you?

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by bse » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:36 am

PG is Lute or several other products.
Other cows will rub the patch.
If you haven't ever done this, don't waste your money, hire it all done the first time and watch.

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Lrj505 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:09 am

Found a tech on Craigslist. Said he only does a shot of Lutalyse. And averages 60% . Charges $30 a head.

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by Redgully » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:36 am

Lrj505 wrote:Found a tech on Craigslist. Said he only does a shot of Lutalyse. And averages 60% . Charges $30 a head.


I have done it that way too, one shot and they will come in heat in the next few days, best if they are a couple of weeks from last heat. But still need to watch them pretty close. I had good success with it when doing it that way. Probably around 80% take.

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Re: First time AI. Cidr? Lutalyse? Both?

Post by bse » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:38 am

I'm gonna call B'S unless he or she is coming alot, if you have very many.

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