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What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:14 pm
by Brangusjoe
Need help as I am not an Angus Breeder, but bought some older donor cattle. Daughters of Pow Conanga 677, Gar ext 2114, Rita 2536 and Ideal 4465 of 6807 4286 and rita 8866 an Ext 614 daughter. Older sires like own daughter of DhD traveler 6807. Would you use power bulls like Resource ? Or new bulls like Innovation, Allied , Sure Fire, Rainfall? Or older bulls like Net Worth , Consensus 7229, Bismark or Sitz Upward? Thank you in advance for advice!

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:16 pm
by Warrior2154
What are you breeding for?

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:19 am
by Son of Butch
Consider Mill Mar Hickok at ABS perhaps Consensus 7229's best son

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:46 am
by gizmom
We are having good luck with Resource on old genetics, and if6807 is in the genetic makeup of the cow I know I will use Resource it just seems to click with that mating.

Gizmo

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:48 am
by WalnutCrest
Warrior2154 wrote:What are you breeding for?


+1

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:01 pm
by Brangusjoe
Thanks! Flushing these Angus cows to Angus and Brangus second flush to create UltraBlacks. Keeping all Angus heifers so breeding for retained heifers and selling bulls or keeping better to breed back on Brangus. They are thick and moderate cows that need power. I am using curvebenders and Resource on Brangus. Problem is the IBBA will not accept certain Angus bulls ( without progeny in system) without cutting numbers in half or lower. Example: Cowboy Up is probably a 3 + BW and 140 something YW. In the Brangus Association Cowboy Up has a -1.9 BW and a 19 YW. So a smaller Breeder cannot use new Angus genetics to improve herd, or on paper, anyway. Brangus breeders are using Resource grandsons, so it keeps you behind the competition..

Re: What Angus Sire to use on older angus genetics

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:50 am
by bse
If you just want Angus females with these type cows id look at Boss 16650219, great females, probably not gonna be able to sale bulls out of him, not huge numbers. Boss was the best sire group to me at the Sinclair dispersal.