Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby Bullitt » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:43 am

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I have two cows now that allow another calf to suck. Both are good milkers. The one milks very heavy and it has never hurt her calves so although not ideal it don't bother me. It would be easy to put second calf on her every year.



What breed are the two cows that allow other calves to milk?
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby Ky hills » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:05 pm

Had a Charolais cow once that would let anything nurse her, found her standing calmly while her calf and 3 more were going to town. Then the year we lost several calves, she was one we grafted a calf on to and she wasn't happy about that for quite a while but finally accepted it.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby Lazy M » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:19 pm

Bullitt wrote:
elkwc wrote:
I have two cows now that allow another calf to suck. Both are good milkers. The one milks very heavy and it has never hurt her calves so although not ideal it don't bother me. It would be easy to put second calf on her every year.



What breed are the two cows that allow other calves to milk?

Others may disagree but I'll say NOT angus or high percentage angus. They love their babies with a passion and hate every other calf..Very difficult to graft a calf on one, but once she thinks it's hers she'll give it all she has.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby elkwc » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:40 pm

Lazy M wrote:
Bullitt wrote:
elkwc wrote:
I have two cows now that allow another calf to suck. Both are good milkers. The one milks very heavy and it has never hurt her calves so although not ideal it don't bother me. It would be easy to put second calf on her every year.




What breed are the two cows that allow other calves to milk?

Others may disagree but I'll say NOT angus or high percentage angus. They love their babies with a passion and hate every other calf..Very difficult to graft a calf on one, but once she thinks it's hers she'll give it all she has.


One is a registered Black Angus cow and the other is a commercial Red Angus heifer. The black angus is a daughter of War Party. It doesn't hurt her calves at all. She does wean her calves by 7 months of age. Last year her bull calf weighed 1000 even at 8 months of age to the day. And she had another calf sucking her most of the time.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby Bullitt » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:37 pm

elkwc wrote:
One is a registered Black Angus cow and the other is a commercial Red Angus heifer. The black angus is a daughter of War Party. It doesn't hurt her calves at all. She does wean her calves by 7 months of age. Last year her bull calf weighed 1000 even at 8 months of age to the day. And she had another calf sucking her most of the time.


Wow, that is really good. I wish I had a herd of cows like that.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm

elkwc wrote:
Lazy M wrote:
Bullitt wrote:


What breed are the two cows that allow other calves to milk?

Others may disagree but I'll say NOT angus or high percentage angus. They love their babies with a passion and hate every other calf..Very difficult to graft a calf on one, but once she thinks it's hers she'll give it all she has.


One is a registered Black Angus cow and the other is a commercial Red Angus heifer. The black angus is a daughter of War Party. It doesn't hurt her calves at all. She does wean her calves by 7 months of age. Last year her bull calf weighed 1000 even at 8 months of age to the day. And she had another calf sucking her most of the time.
:shock: 1000 pds at 8 mo..what was the calfs sire???
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby elkwc » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:32 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
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Lazy M wrote:Others may disagree but I'll say NOT angus or high percentage angus. They love their babies with a passion and hate every other calf..Very difficult to graft a calf on one, but once she thinks it's hers she'll give it all she has.


One is a registered Black Angus cow and the other is a commercial Red Angus heifer. The black angus is a daughter of War Party. It doesn't hurt her calves at all. She does wean her calves by 7 months of age. Last year her bull calf weighed 1000 even at 8 months of age to the day. And she had another calf sucking her most of the time.
:shock: 1000 pds at 8 mo..what was the calfs sire???


His sire is a performance son of Hoover Dam. He sired the number one bull to sell at Green Springs last spring. The cow comes from a performance line of cows also. They have as much bone as you'll find in an Angus. He had no creep. I did run him on wheat until it played out and he continued to grow well. He bred cows all summer. I have took him off the cows. He is running to hay and caked once a day. Will weigh him when I take him back to the pasture. This breeder breeds for soundness and performance. He feeds out everything he don't retain so he knows how his cattle will perform. He has had bulls at the top at Midland also and they do well on RFI tests.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby farmerjan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:13 pm

That's impressive. Need some genetics like that in our herd. Where is the Green Springs sale? Don't see a location on your posts.
We have 2 cows that are raising an additional calf between them. The cow died and her calf was about 4-5 weeks old. She was old and this was her last calf and would have been sold when it was weaned. These 2 cows had calves about 2 weeks old and the orphan started sucking one and then the other when I went in the field to check them. I was all set to bring the orphan in but figured that if they would let it suck, between the two it should do okay. They got turned out to pasture for the winter on stockpiled grass and I saw him specifically and he looked to be doing okay.
Thing is, we have several that will let another calf suck, especially when their own is sucking. But to try to "make them take a 2nd calf" is something I just don't want to try.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby farmerjan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:16 pm

I also bred several of the dairy cross cows to Aubrac. Will be preg checking the heifers this next week when we get them all in and moved to the home farm. Have one cow confirmed and one other needs to be checked. 2 were open to the AI breeding. I blame it on "operator error" since I hadn't been doing much AI lately and had to get back into the "feel" of it. Hoping the heifers did better. I really am looking forward to some of those cross calves now that I saw your pics.
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Re: Best Beef Breeds for Adding a Second Calf Per Cow?

Postby farmerjan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:20 pm

pdfangus wrote:not to mention that it might take two years for a jersey calf to get up to 600 lbs...


I butchered a jersey steer at 26 months that weighed 1127 lbs live and hung at 700. They will grow good after they hit a year. Most of mine are about 5-600 at 12-14 months.

I'm not the biggest fan of the jersey x angus. The jersey tends to overshadow the angus and they don't grow as good as I would like. Am really hoping that the Aubrac will improve the calves.
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