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Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:36 am
by ALACOWMAN
I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:04 am
by Lrj505
He bought some hay off me and we started talking. He bought them and threw them in with his commercial herd. He is low on grass so he is gonna let go of his oldest cows. Pictures he showed they are definitely healthy and thick. I could throw them on Craigslist and sell them in a week.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:45 am
by Rafter S
As long as they don't lay down and die before they get the calves raised I don't see how you can go wrong.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:51 am
by callmefence
Stocker Steve wrote:Yes,
but mouth them before you make too many long term plans. :2cents:

Exactly right... look in the mouth. It will tell you how much cow you have left.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:48 am
by Workinonit Farm
If they're in good shape, why not? Decent price. FWIW, I have a few that 14 and older, are raising good calves (as they always have) and are in good shape and are bred back and I'm keeping them. Similar to elkwc, I prefer longevity, and have a couple of maternal lines that are good for that.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:23 pm
by Lrj505
He is going to send pics tonight I will post them.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:10 pm
by elkwc
ALACOWMAN wrote:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...


What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:35 pm
by ALACOWMAN
elkwc wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...


What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:34 pm
by elkwc
ALACOWMAN wrote:
elkwc wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...


What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...


I agree. The PB I'm talking about was on FB. He said he could tell that I raised crappy cattle because I retained them so long. And then went on state that if you kept a cow or bull longer than 6 years you weren't progressing your herd. We are each entitled to our opinions. And like you I feel a cow don't start making money until her 5-6 y/o years. And that was just one breeders opinions I know many who would disagree.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:23 am
by Lrj505
Here are the pics. He also sold me a heifer calf out of final answer for $1000 she is in the pic and registered.

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Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:58 am
by ALACOWMAN
elkwc wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:
elkwc wrote:
What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...


I agree. The PB I'm talking about was on FB. He said he could tell that I raised crappy cattle because I retained them so long. And then went on state that if you kept a cow or bull longer than 6 years you weren't progressing your herd. We are each entitled to our opinions. And like you I feel a cow don't start making money until her 5-6 y/o years. And that was just one breeders opinions I know many who would disagree.
he's been drinking too much of that kool aid....probably getting all his experience setting at the feet of angus gurus.... the ones at the top, of the " do it this way"""pyramid.....

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:40 am
by True Grit Farms
Lrj505 wrote:Here are the pics. He also sold me a heifer calf out of final answer for $1000 she is in the pic and registered.

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Nice cattle, but a piece of paper doesn't make the cow.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:41 am
by Lrj505
Isn’t money made out of paper?

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:46 am
by True Grit Farms
I've never printed any money, and the dollar devalues daily. It's hard to make a living that way.

Re: Old registered pregnant angus $750

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:43 pm
by elkwc
Lrj505 wrote:Here are the pics. He also sold me a heifer calf out of final answer for $1000 she is in the pic and registered.

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Nice cows