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How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:03 pm
by herofan
This bull is 19 months old and is Angus/Gelbvieh. What do you think about his appearance?
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Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:45 pm
by Gators Rule
I think he needs to show more masculine characteristics. Looks a little cowy to me.

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:23 pm
by Workinonit Farm
Gators Rule wrote:I think he needs to show more masculine characteristics. Looks a little cowy to me.


I tend to agree with Gator, here. He looks more feminine than masculine.

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:39 pm
by ALACOWMAN
Those small coconuts in the rear might be the culprit......

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:28 pm
by Muddy
Looks like a steer with nuts

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:03 pm
by Nesikep
Lots of better bulls.. hard pass. I just posted some Gelbvieh bulls, 10 months old that look more masculine than he does

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:25 am
by wbvs58
Looks like you took the photos at nighttime.

Ken

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:53 am
by Ebenezer
Never cared for a low headed bull.

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:29 am
by herofan
So, total loser??

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:13 am
by Redgully
He may be late maturing and beef up yet. Has strong legs. Interesting in the second pick looks like he only has three legs.

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:23 am
by herofan
I don’t think I have ever gotten a glowing critique from bull I have ever posted, but my calves have always sold above the average prices of the time for the last several years. My calves even brought higher than my neighbor’s one year who had a registered bull; I don’t know about other years, we only discussed the one year. So, with all the negatives mentioned in this bull, if he produces a calf and it sells at a good price, do the negatives really matter? Would there be any gains in selling him and getting one that someone would appear to have all the right stuff?

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:51 am
by Ky hills
herofan wrote:I don’t think I have ever gotten a glowing critique from bull I have ever posted, but my calves have always sold above the average prices of the time for the last several years. My calves even brought higher than my neighbor’s one year who had a registered bull; I don’t know about other years, we only discussed the one year. So, with all the negatives mentioned in this bull, if he produces a calf and it sells at a good price, do the negatives really matter? Would there be any gains in selling him and getting one that someone would appear to have all the right stuff?


Therein lies a conundrum. I've been on both sides of that argument and still don't have a good answer. From what I can tell, when you takes calves to market, there are a few things that make calves bring a bit more than average. First would be number, more calves in a group simply sell at a premium over one and two. Saw a graph at a cattle meeting last year, even 5 head will do some better. Quality comes into play too, but sometimes what the feeder calf buyers are looking for may not always be what you or I think is best. Around here the higher priced calves are in good shape but not over conditioned, and not thin. I think that from the feeder standpoint they want calves that will gain weight and that have enough frame to grow out. My opinion only, if you like the bull and are happy with the results that's fine. If I were keeping several replacements, then that is where I think a purebred bull of good quality may be more justifiable.

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:14 am
by Nesikep
KYhills, I agree.. The more you want to make genetic progress in your herd the more important the bull is going to be in the long run.

What the buyers want seems to change by the year.. Usually in these parts they really like 5 weights... This year they paid more for my 6 weights though

Here are some of the black Gelbvieh bulls from the breeder I went to, 10 months old, 8-900 lbs
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Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:28 am
by ez14.
herofan wrote:I don’t think I have ever gotten a glowing critique from bull I have ever posted, but my calves have always sold above the average prices of the time for the last several years. My calves even brought higher than my neighbor’s one year who had a registered bull; I don’t know about other years, we only discussed the one year. So, with all the negatives mentioned in this bull, if he produces a calf and it sells at a good price, do the negatives really matter? Would there be any gains in selling him and getting one that someone would appear to have all the right stuff?
if the calves are topping the sale then he'd be a fine terminal bull. But not something I'd want to keep replacements from. Mainly due to his apparent late maturing

Re: How does the bull look?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:53 pm
by Muddy
In my honest opinion, I won't use him if I didn't want some medicore steers that probably finish longer in the feedlot. It doesn't matter if the bull is a registered, purebred or mutt as long as the calves are high quality...I don't think I ever seen poor quality calves outsells high quality calves before.