Best Terminal Breed

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Best Terminal Breed

Postby Cross breeder #1 » Wed May 30, 2012 12:45 pm

What is the best terminal breed for you to get maximum pounds and money?
For around here it would be charolais, and i see many people may answer the same way however has anyone ever used a blonde i knkow nothing about them just thouhgt it could be an option
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed May 30, 2012 1:07 pm

i like the charolais route, though they aint one of my favorite breeds overall... my personal preference would be Simmental
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby ANAZAZI » Wed May 30, 2012 1:25 pm

I have some experience with blondes! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

I suppose you refer to Blonde d`acuitaine. They are an exellent terminal breed. Very long, and smooth calves make for a relatively easy calving as compared to Charolais sired calves. Very good muscling, also in females, a great advantage over Limousine and Charolais in that regard. High growth, a tad lower than Simmental and Charolais, higher growth than Limousine.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby SSGenetics » Wed May 30, 2012 1:33 pm

I’ve always preferred Limmy’s for the terminal X... :2cents:
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Massey135 » Wed May 30, 2012 1:56 pm

Charolais. You won't get docked for that double muscling look on the rump that the limo with throw.

I ran a blond bull over brangus cows several yrs ago. They grew real well. Honestly, the females were much better than the males. I kept 6 or 7 as replacements. They had the best udders I've ever had on commercial cows. Perfectly level with a lot of forward volume. I know one thing though, they were highly susceptible to anaplasmosis. Lost 5 cows that yr. 4 were the blond crosses.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Simmental7 » Wed May 30, 2012 1:58 pm

Simmental... NLC Upgrade he's awesome
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Stocker Steve » Wed May 30, 2012 1:58 pm

modern Black Angus
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby salebarn junkie » Wed May 30, 2012 3:18 pm

Black limi on black cows. Char on red or white cows
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby KNERSIE » Wed May 30, 2012 3:31 pm

Fullblood Charolais or fullblood limousin.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Cross breeder #1 » Wed May 30, 2012 3:36 pm

knersie i wouldnt want fullblood as the BWs are just HUGE most of my cows could handle 100 at a stretch but im staying at nothing over 90
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Red Bull Breeder » Thu May 31, 2012 5:54 am

Massey would like you to show me where you can find a double muscled limousin bull in the US. For the most part limousin do not carry the double muscle gene.
Cross breeder Its fairly easy to find a Fullblood Limousin with a low birth weight.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Stocker Steve » Thu May 31, 2012 6:03 am

KNERSIE wrote:Fullblood Charolais or fullblood limousin.


My Limi cross calves look really good. They are running 77 to 116# for BW, with most of them in the 90s. I have had no assists.
My low birth weight BA calves are not even close for growth. I think there will be a 100# difference in weaning weight.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby Red Bull Breeder » Thu May 31, 2012 6:11 am

Better watch out for that double muscled looking rump Steve. Thats where the extra weight shows up.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby KNERSIE » Thu May 31, 2012 6:55 am

Stocker Steve wrote:
KNERSIE wrote:Fullblood Charolais or fullblood limousin.


My Limi cross calves look really good. They are running 77 to 116# for BW, with most of them in the 90s. I have had no assists.
My low birth weight BA calves are not even close for growth. I think there will be a 100# difference in weaning weight.


With the added growth and muscle, expect extra BW too. Used on mature cows both charolais or limousin are great terminal sires.

Using the watered down version makes no sense to me, not only will you lose muscle, bone and growth, but also hybrid vigour in a crossbreeding system. I agree the continentals isn't for everyone's situation, but if you can make it work it will pay off!

Just as long as you don't keep some of those great looking heifers, they just don't make great commercial cows for the most part.
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Re: Best Terminal Breed

Postby houstoncutter » Thu May 31, 2012 8:50 am

Red Bull Breeder wrote:Massey would like you to show me where you can find a double muscled limousin bull in the US. For the most part limousin do not carry the double muscle gene.
Cross breeder Its fairly easy to find a Fullblood Limousin with a low birth weight.




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