TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:29 pm

I fed FRM HiMag minerals all winter this year. Didn't know I could get the fly control in them. I liked them.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by M-5 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:36 pm

JMJ Farms wrote:I fed FRM HiMag minerals all winter this year. Didn't know I could get the fly control in them. I liked them.


FRM has always had good feed , I've fed the plain mineral but had not tried the one with fly control. It's about 10$ cheaper than Purina. I'm gonna try it on that bunch I bought. The mill is only 45 min from me so it's easy to find their feed and stuff.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:55 pm

My mother and her husband own a couple of local feed stores. They have been an FRM dealer for at least 25 years. IMO FRM has come a long way as far as quality. I buy a little bit of everything from a bunch of different companies. I like their all stock pellet and their range cubes too. There's a local nutrena dealer that will custom mix minerals to customer specs. If I was smart enough to know what I needed, I'd give that a try.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by TexasBred » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:24 am

M-5 wrote:Yes FRM .

Dash it has plenty of Mag which is good but also has an extremely high level of iron and low level of copper. Iron being an antagonist of copper you could end up with copper deficiencies so watch for that. Vitamins are a bit low. Not much calcium which is a cost cutter so it probably wasn't real cheap either.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by rockroadseminole » Sun May 22, 2016 1:15 pm

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While we're on the FRM train... How about this for a free choice mineral for bred cows? It's about $20 a bag, and I'm a little lost in the mineral department.

Also, is it wise to have my grass tested? We fertilize our pasture, so it should have some good properties to build on.

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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun May 22, 2016 3:13 pm

RockyRoad this is only MY OPINION.

In our area, Vigortone makes the best mineral. If you can get Vigortone, I personally don't think you'll ever go back. With that being said, I've fed numerous different kinds. Any mineral is better than no mineral. TexasBred can look at the label you posted and offer some good advice.

As far as testing the grass, I've never tested the grass itself. I do pull yearly soil samples and test my hay every year. Both are very valuable tools and have saved me lots of dollars.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by True Grit Farms » Sun May 22, 2016 8:17 pm

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I rotate between this and Southern States breeder mineral. Both TJ, and Lumber City Hardware support The Three Rivers Chapter of GCA. And our local FRM dealer Chasmar doesn't support GCA, and I try not to support them.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by John SD » Sun May 22, 2016 8:40 pm

JMJ Farms wrote:Vigortone makes good products IMO but they are a bit pricey I agree. I wonder sometimes how much extra you pay for the "brand name". Kinda like our own food. I know that nabisco vanilla wafers taste better than store brand, but are they one in the same other than taste?

I was brought up feeding cows grass, cheap hay, and maybe a little grain. No minerals. Very little worming. When it became my money invested I started learning about nutrition. Learning how to grow quality grass and hay, learning about vitamin and mineral requirements in different stages of production, non lactating, lactating, and so forth. And I still get real confused at times (probably because of strategic labeling by the feed companies) it's nice to be able to ask folks on here that know way more than me and get an educated answer. I appreciate you TB, and all the others who offer their time to help me on a weekly basis :tiphat:


I agree on the Vigortone. Good consistent quality product. Not cheap, but worth it IMO.

My feed supplier also sells KayDee and CHS/Payback, but he now feeds Vigortone to his own cattle. He took over the Vigortone dealership from a competitive feed supplier in town that went out of business.

Every spring it seemed like there was some kind of discount special on Vigortone. I'd buy a few bags at a time just about every time I went to town to get me through until that time. When the discount deal materialized, I would buy a pallet of mineral and it would last most of the year.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by TexasBred » Tue May 24, 2016 9:43 am

True Grit Farms wrote:Image
I rotate between this and Southern States breeder mineral. Both TJ, and Lumber City Hardware support The Three Rivers Chapter of GCA. And our local FRM dealer Chasmar doesn't support GCA, and I try not to support them.


Pretty good looking mineral TGF. Combination of oxides and sulfates, well fortified with the exception of Selenium which should be higher in a mineral with a 2 oz. per head per day consumption rate.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by True Grit Farms » Tue May 24, 2016 10:28 am

Thanks TB. I've tried alot of different types and brands of mineral. Seems like the redder the color the less your getting mineral and vitamin wise?
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by TexasBred » Tue May 24, 2016 12:20 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:Thanks TB. I've tried alot of different types and brands of mineral. Seems like the redder the color the less your getting mineral and vitamin wise?

A shame they won't leave it natural colored without the added red pigment. Does absolutely nothing but run the cost up and if it's red iron oxide it throws a ton of iron into the mix which inhibits the absorption of copper. This mineral should work for you.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by Pointer1160 » Wed May 25, 2016 6:30 pm

I was told by someone I trust that a mineral that has really good ingredients will include Copper Chloride.

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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by TexasBred » Wed May 25, 2016 7:07 pm

Pointer1160 wrote:I was told by someone I trust that a mineral that has really good ingredients will include Copper Chloride.

Or Copper Amino Acid Complex.
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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by Pointer1160 » Wed May 25, 2016 10:03 pm

Not a lot of choices near where I live. I go with the Purina Wind and Rain Fly Control. What do you think of it? Very good post and information.

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Re: TexasBred, what's your advice on this mineral?

Post by TexasBred » Thu May 26, 2016 7:49 am

Pointer1160 wrote:Not a lot of choices near where I live. I go with the Purina Wind and Rain Fly Control. What do you think of it? Very good post and information.


Pointer here is what I've been using for a couple of years now: http://countrystore.biz/doc/AllSeason7_complete_AV4.pdf

All of the zinc, managanese, copper and cobalt comes from chelated minerals. You'll see them disclosed in the list of ingredients as amino acid complexes. I add IGR myself. About the only thing PMI makes that I'll feed to cattle.
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